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Old 12-18-2009, 06:06 PM
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is what fear of giving up the deep ball does.


* Welker's biggest play of the game:

(Moss is at the top of the photo. He has a corner 3 yards past him. The corner on Moss has underneath help from a line backer - and deep help from a safety. Meanwhile, Welker gets to stroll untouched into a HUGE space in the middle of the field at the 20. If the safety hadn't started the play by playing super deep - Welker wouldn't have so much room)





* Ben Watson's biggest play of the game:

(Moss is in the middle of the field & going deep. He's getting triple teamed. 3 Panther defenders have a triangle around him. Two other Panther defenders are standing at 39 and 31 yard line, towards the bottom of the screen, with their thumbs in their butt and nothing happening around them.

5 different defenders are being accounted for by either Randy Moss or open space he has created by going deep.

This leaves Brady with enough time to eat a hot dog - and two excellently favorable one-on-one match-ups to exploit. Those are the type of plays that made so many BUM qb's put up all-world numbers with Moss)





Anyone think Wes Welker would be 1/5th as successful as he has been in New England when he's playing on a team where opposing defenses don't respect and fear the deep ball?

If you want to take Moss out of the game and triple team him early on like so ....



You're probably going to accomplish that. I'm not sure it's going to help you win ... but hey, it will probably lead to Moss having a bad stats day - and give the gossip writers who call themselves football journalists reason to say he isn't trying.
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Old 12-18-2009, 07:09 PM
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Welker's best game this year was against the Jets, when Moss doesn't get double-covered because it's completely unnecessary.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:42 PM
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The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:50 PM
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The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.

where was maroney , the saints aren't exactly a team that stops the run like the 85 bears

bill should have run the ball with maroney more and kept his defense off the field

drugs whether moss does good or not , this defense is not carrying the pats anywhere this year
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Old 12-18-2009, 08:58 PM
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where was maroney , the saints aren't exactly a team that stops the run like the 85 bears
Phony Maroney should be made to wear pink every single game ... not just for breast cancer awareness month.

He's my least favorite Patriots player. Remember - the ancient Fred Taylor was there money running rb before he got hurt.

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bill should have run the ball with maroney more and kept his defense off the field
I picked up Maroney when Taylor went down in that fantasy leauge - he was a great fantasy pick up - like 6 straight weeks with a TD. He fumbles and he's a dancing pansy. He's an absolute liability. When they've had the lead late in games on the road - Maroney is worthless when teams are looking for the run.

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drugs whether moss does good or not , this defense is not carrying the pats anywhere this year
This defense is the '85 Bears compared to every single defense Moss had in Minnesota.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:02 PM
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drugs the pats are regressing

maybe they get through the 1st round but do you really see them beating the colts and chargers in b2b weeks to get to the superbowl

i don't see it , heck the bungals could also beat them in the afc title game

don't forget the fish , jets , jags and ravens
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:14 PM
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The Jets were trying to cover Welker with some raggity ass linebacker who couldn't defend me.

They gave up almost 100 yards to Julian Edellman in week #2 - a white guy who was Kent State's qb last year - a guy who was drafted in round #7 - and a guy who wasn't even activated for week #1.

Your boy Beavis played two masterful games against Moss - good for him.

The fact is - he did have deep safety help A LOT. Basically, Moss was getting doubled if he was going deep .. and anything under 20 yards Reavis stood his ground admirably.

What you fail to mention is that the Jets blitzed the living sh!t of the Pats. Welker basically was one on one with a linebacker or a nickle guy the entire game - same as Edellman was.

The Saints doubled both Moss and Welker and only rushed 3 guys. They basically did the opposite of the Jets - put less pressure on Brady, but force Brady to beat them with Sam Aiken and tight ends.

The Saints are the only team that beat NE conclusively all year.
Might want to learn how to spell the name of Moss's daddy. It's to the point where Revis Christ should make Moss hold the inside of his pocket and follow him to the bathroom.

And the Saints could've beaten the Pats rushing zero guys. They're an infinitely better team than New England.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:25 PM
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And the Saints could've beaten the Pats rushing zero guys. They're an infinitely better team than New England.
That game was as much a reflection of the Saints superiority over the Patriots as the 59-0 NE win over the Titans was a reflection of the Pats superiority over the Titans.

The Saints were infinitely better that night. They did things NE hasn't seen before .. and NE didn't adjust well to it offensively .. and defensively - they got abused.

The Saints needed three of the luckiest plays I've ever seen just to force overtime and beat the Redskins. Over the course of a year - every team has great performances and lousy ones.
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Old 12-18-2009, 09:30 PM
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That game was as much a reflection of the Saints superiority over the Patriots as the 59-0 NE win over the Titans was a reflection of the Pats superiority over the Titans.

The Saints were infinitely better that night. They did things NE hasn't seen before .. and NE didn't adjust well to it offensively .. and defensively - they got abused.

The Saints needed three of the luckiest plays I've ever seen just to force overtime and beat the Redskins. Over the course of a year - every team has great performances and lousy ones.
In case you haven't noticed, the Redskins have played way better of late. In the past five weeks, they've beaten the Broncos, lost heartbreakers on the road against Dallas and Philly, crushed Oakland and should've beaten New Orleans. It's a different team. You can't possibly think the Pats are even close to the Saints.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:51 PM
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Welker's best game this year was against the Jets, when Moss doesn't get double-covered because it's completely unnecessary.
Ughh, I truly feel bad for you. The Jets are a disgrace and Sanchez will never be Brady, HE WILL NEVER EVER WIN A NFL CHAMPIONSHIP, hes not that guy. The Jets are a trash team, and really a joke.
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Old 12-18-2009, 11:54 PM
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Old 12-19-2009, 01:45 AM
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Ughh, I truly feel bad for you. The Jets are a disgrace and Sanchez will never be Brady, HE WILL NEVER EVER WIN A NFL CHAMPIONSHIP, hes not that guy. The Jets are a trash team, and really a joke.
Thank you so, so much. I was a little hesitant about declaring the Pats dead and saying that Sanchez will win us a SB, but then YOU came along and said this. Da mush of all mushes has spoken. You're the best. And by best I mean saddest know nothing bandwagon riding terrible gambler loser douche in the history of everything. How is it Hossy smacks you into nonexistence, yet you're louder and more annoying than ever and he's AWOL? It isn't fair.
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Ughh, I truly feel bad for you. The Jets are a disgrace and Sanchez will never be Brady, HE WILL NEVER EVER WIN A NFL CHAMPIONSHIP, hes not that guy. The Jets are a trash team, and really a joke.
LOL, you're the joke man. If you could, I'd bet you would sell your sister just so DrugS will be your imaginary internet buddy. Too funny, your hard on for DrugS is as big as his hard on for Randy Moss. Keep it up, it's good comedy. As far as A-team goes, he's a damn Jets fan. What the hell is wrong with that? At least he doesn't jump ship every year. There is no way you were a Pats fan when they sucked.
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Old 12-19-2009, 10:55 AM
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LOL, you're the joke man. If you could, I'd bet you would sell your sister just so DrugS will be your imaginary internet buddy. Too funny, your hard on for DrugS is as big as his hard on for Randy Moss. Keep it up, it's good comedy. As far as A-team goes, he's a damn Jets fan. What the hell is wrong with that? At least he doesn't jump ship every year. There is no way you were a Pats fan when they sucked.
Hes right and Ateam is wrong, its pretty simple. The Jets are a joke and the Patriots are one of the best run organizations in the History of the NFL. Anyone arguing that is a joke. Its cool Ateam being a Jets fan, whatever... But they suck and have for a long time, and the Patriots are always good and will be for the next 5-10 years. Hard on? Thats funny, looks to me like you have one for Ateam.
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Old 12-19-2009, 11:42 AM
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Hes right and Ateam is wrong, its pretty simple. The Jets are a joke and the Patriots are one of the best run organizations in the History of the NFL. Anyone arguing that is a joke. Its cool Ateam being a Jets fan, whatever... But they suck and have for a long time, and the Patriots are always good and will be for the next 5-10 years. Hard on? Thats funny, looks to me like you have one for Ateam.
You're a Patriots fan and a Yankees fan. Anybody who roots for both of those teams should be shot in the face. Let me guess, you like the Lakers too. Effing DrugS has more credibility as a Pats fan than you, clown.
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I'd bet you would sell your sister just so DrugS will be your imaginary internet buddy.
If I had a sister ... I would probably do the same.
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