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Old 11-30-2009, 03:05 PM
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Wish someone had told George Bush II that, before he sunk us back into massive debt.
Were you cheering Bush on? If that debt was massive what do you call Obama's debt? He isn't even adding in the Obamacare Debt yet.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:15 PM
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Were you cheering Bush on? If that debt was massive what do you call Obama's debt? He isn't even adding in the Obamacare Debt yet.
I was cheering until I learned there really were no weapons of mass destruction, he hadn't figured out how to pay for the wars, and he took Clinton's massive budget deficit paydowns (we would have been out of debt by the end of Bush's first term had he simply continued it) and increased it greater than any President in our previous history. Bush really screwed us debt-wise, but that's the GOP legacy when you look back at the last 40 years or so. Obama isn't even close.

There's lot of charts available on that, just google USA debt chart, here's one:

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
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I was cheering until I learned there really were no weapons of mass destruction, he hadn't figured out how to pay for the wars, and he took Clinton's massive budget deficit paydowns (we would have been out of debt by the end of Bush's first term had he simply continued it) and increased it greater than any President in our previous history. Bush really screwed us debt-wise, but that's the GOP legacy when you look back at the last 40 years or so. Obama isn't even close.

There's lot of charts available on that, just google USA debt chart, here's one:

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
Uh have you been paying attention the last year or so?
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:31 PM
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Not only is Tarp a success but it is Bush's baby!
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:33 PM
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I was cheering until I learned there really were no weapons of mass destruction, he hadn't figured out how to pay for the wars, and he took Clinton's massive budget deficit paydowns (we would have been out of debt by the end of Bush's first term had he simply continued it) and increased it greater than any President in our previous history. Bush really screwed us debt-wise, but that's the GOP legacy when you look back at the last 40 years or so. Obama isn't even close.

There's lot of charts available on that, just google USA debt chart, here's one:

http://zfacts.com/p/318.html
You are really going to sh!t yourself when you find out there really is no Global Warming!
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Obama didn't push the Stimulus or Omnibus pork filled spending bills to the tune of about a trillion and a half?
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You are really going to sh!t yourself when you find out there really is no Global Warming!
As soon as the Republican's start admitting there is, you will too. And many have....
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Uh have you been paying attention the last year or so?
Yes, I have. Do you know, to date, how much debt has actually been added? Put into existence? And what is carryover from programs from last year, and what is new?
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I'll be sweating my nads off mowing my lawn in February before I believe it!
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:43 PM
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You are really going to sh!t yourself when you find out there really is no Global Warming!
It's already been proven beyond any doubt that global warming is ongoing right now.

The only question is man's contribution to it, and can man attenuate it before we're truely screwed.
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:44 PM
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Obama didn't push the Stimulus or Omnibus pork filled spending bills to the tune of about a trillion and a half?
Your amount is off regarding what can be placed in Obama's lap. See what the debt was January 2009, and see what the current administration has actually added (not continuations of previously-implemented programs).
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Old 11-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Obama voted against the TARP as a Senator? I thought you were for massive deficits anyway.
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Your amount is off regarding what can be placed in Obama's lap. See what the debt was January 2009, and see what the current administration has actually added (not continuations of previously-implemented programs).
I was just adding up the Stimulus and Omnibus spending bills. About 800 billion apeice. Cap and trade and healthcare will add considerably to that.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:03 PM
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I'm sure they will call Debt something else and POOF it will be gone. Just like Terrorism.
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Old 11-30-2009, 04:12 PM
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I'm sure they will call Debt something else and POOF it will be gone. Just like Terrorism.
Point taken
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Old 11-30-2009, 05:48 PM
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It's already been proven beyond any doubt that global warming is ongoing right now.

The only question is man's contribution to it, and can man attenuate it before we're truely screwed.
...the sky is falling....the sky is falling!
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:02 PM
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It's already been proven beyond any doubt that global warming is ongoing right now.

The only question is man's contribution to it, and can man attenuate it before we're truely screwed.

so did it solve the pending ice age that the 'majority' of the scientific community agreed on during the 1970's or not? We need to celebrate not worry!
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:22 PM
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Warming would be a lot easier to adapt to than the coming ice age.
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:25 PM
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so did it solve the pending ice age that the 'majority' of the scientific community agreed on during the 1970's or not? We need to celebrate not worry!
"They" predicted a few years of far colder than normal weather back in the 1890's, too! Thank goodness science has advanced in leaps and bounds, especially in the last 30 years, hum?
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Old 11-30-2009, 07:57 PM
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"They" predicted a few years of far colder than normal weather back in the 1890's, too! Thank goodness science has advanced in leaps and bounds, especially in the last 30 years, hum?
especially when 'new science' juggles and loses/destroys its evidence
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