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Old 09-05-2009, 05:17 PM
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Would it really be worth the risk for both parties? I am not being coy, I really am not sure. What do DTer's think? I will say, that was one of the best races that I have ever had the privilege to enjoy.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:51 PM
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So the consensus is she's done for the year because of one tough race? No wonder why this sport is behind bowling and cornhole on espn.

I can see it now...

Once horse racing is done as a sport the fans that are left will switch to Tennis and demand a tournament end after the star has a tough 5-setter in the quarters.
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Old 09-05-2009, 05:58 PM
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There is no longer any upside, Mr. Pants.

Buy a horse like her and you'll understand.

First, however, you'll have to figure a way to get $10 million dollars.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:38 PM
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There is no longer any upside, Mr. Pants.

Buy a horse like her and you'll understand.

First, however, you'll have to figure a way to get $10 million dollars.
You have experience with buying 8 million dollar horses? At least get the price right.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:51 PM
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There is no longer any upside, Mr. Pants.

Buy a horse like her and you'll understand.

First, however, you'll have to figure a way to get $10 million dollars.
I'll do that right after you go suck 10 dicks. So...I'll buy a horse tomorrow.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:56 PM
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I'll do that right after you go suck 10 dicks. So...I'll buy a horse tomorrow.

LOL, YOU ARE A LEGEND.
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Old 09-05-2009, 09:58 PM
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Anybody suggesting she isn't the horse of the year and could actually get beat is in denial and smoking crack.

Zenyatta? GIO PONTI?!?!? Please.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:25 PM
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I'll do that right after you go suck 10 dicks. So...I'll buy a horse tomorrow.
Wow, a homoerotic response from you. What a shock.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:57 PM
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Wow, a homoerotic response from you. What a shock.
And you would know all about homoeroticism considering you proudly tout being on AOL.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:40 PM
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So the consensus is she's done for the year because of one tough race? No wonder why this sport is behind bowling and cornhole on espn.

I can see it now...

Once horse racing is done as a sport the fans that are left will switch to Tennis and demand a tournament end after the star has a tough 5-setter in the quarters.
I think the race was tough because the 2009 campaign is catching up with her. If I owned her I'd shut her down.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:45 PM
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I think the race was tough because the 2009 campaign is catching up with her. If I owned her I'd shut her down.
If I owned her I'd sell her.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:41 PM
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So the consensus is she's done for the year because of one tough race?
Let's dismiss your conjecture with some FACTS.
  • Rachel Alexandra just won 9th straight race; 8th this year.
  • Fifth consecutive Grade 1 victory: Kentucky Oaks, Preakness, Mother Goose, Haskell, and Woodward. Have you ever heard of these races?
  • History would suggest that any male horse who won Preakness, Haskell and Woodward would be "clubhouse leader" for Horse of the Year with or without Breeders' Cup victory. Add Kentucky Oaks and Mother Goose and "virtual lock" is not unrealistic on HOY honors.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:58 PM
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Let's dismiss your conjecture with some FACTS.
  • Rachel Alexandra just won 9th straight race; 8th this year.
  • Fifth consecutive Grade 1 victory: Kentucky Oaks, Preakness, Mother Goose, Haskell, and Woodward. Have you ever heard of these races?
  • History would suggest that any male horse who won Preakness, Haskell and Woodward would be "clubhouse leader" for Horse of the Year with or without Breeders' Cup victory. Add Kentucky Oaks and Mother Goose and "virtual lock" is not unrealistic on HOY honors.
I didn't say anything about HOY. I don't give a s.hit about awards shows.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:52 PM
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Rachel's race today was awesome and I am a big fan. However, even with all she has accomplished, isn't a little early to be declaring that she has wrapped up horse of the year honors? Andy beyer said it this morning. The guys on TVG have been saying it as well.

If Zenyatta comes east for the Beldame and beats Rachel and then goes on to win the Breeder's Cup Classic, wouldn't she have to be horse of the year? Not likely to happen (I know) but as great as today is for racing, it cannot possibly have definatively settled the horse of the year question.

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In addition to totally dominating her division, she has defeated last year's Belmont winner, and the winners of this year's Derby, Belmont, Travers, Whitney, and Foster, New Orleans, and Oaklawn Handicaps. What more can we ask of her? She has beaten everything in her path this year.
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Old 09-05-2009, 06:59 PM
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In addition to totally dominating her division, she has defeated last year's Belmont winner, and the winners of this year's Derby, Belmont, Travers, Whitney, and Foster, New Orleans, and Oaklawn Handicaps. What more can we ask of her? She has beaten everything in her path this year.
You can stop refering to last years Belmont winner as such as they obviously ran a ringer in that race.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:08 PM
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You can stop refering to last years Belmont winner as such as they obviously ran a ringer in that race.
I was going to refer to him as last year's Belmont champion, but I figured that would look too suspicious.
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Old 09-05-2009, 07:50 PM
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I was going to refer to him as last year's Belmont champion, but I figured that would look too suspicious.
You know how the NCAA will vacate champions after violations are found and wins are forfeited? The Belmont from last year should have the same thing happen.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:01 PM
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We can make tons of crazy scenario's for HOY. What if they all show up in the Beldame.....Rachel, Icon, Zenyatta and Carless.... Icon cruises then wins any Breeders Cup race, what happens then? Same thing with Zenyatta? What if Rachel shuts it down, Summer Bird wins JCGC and BCC? Then what? Zenyatta stays out West, stays undefeated and runs in the classic, beats Sea the Stars and all the Birds and everyone else, then what? Rail Trip cruises tomorrow, then beats them all in the Classic? Sea the Stars beats all 12-14 of them in the classic? I will say this, if Zenyatta does not come and beat Rachel she HAS TO WIN THE CLASSIC, not the Distaff/Ladies Classic.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:06 PM
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I would say these are the only horses who have any chance at all at HOY and they all would have to hope Rachel runs again and gets beat...

Rachel 1-9

Zenyatta
Rail Trip
Summer Bird
Sea the Stars..... they all have outside chances but things would have to go perfect



Icon Project, I am putting her only because I beleive she is a stayer and at 1 1/4 could do some damage, maybe classic?
Gio Ponti..... these 2 need TONS OF HELP.

I dont see how anyone else has any prayer.
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:26 PM
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Who frikkin cares about HOY? She did what she had to do. Great race! I just got home. She took on all comers and beat them. What more does anyone want? She just showed the Whitney was the real deal with the 1st 2 finishers coming at her. If she doesn't toss Borel I have the tri for 10 bucks. Then I put 20 on Macho to win instead. Oh well . What could any true fan have to b!tch about? Pacific whatever who the fk cares? Synthetics have ruined West coast racing. Zenyatta (who I love) has beaten a bunch of carpet rats. BFD. HOY doesn't mean crap. Rachel has a season for the ages going. If a 3 year old colt accomplished what she has the world would be raving, and they should be. But she's a filly, so the world should be spinning sideways. Mine is.
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