wow, that was close! - Page 2

Travis Stone · #21 08-09-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

That was a really retarded ride by Smith.

It made me think of Desoremoan, they way he overthought things.

How so? He rode her the same exact way he always rides her? That style is her style, it's what she does. He's not going to put her into the race at the half because the pace is slow, that's not her element.

NTamm1215 · #22 08-09-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Not a problem. All Jackson has to do is send his FAST filly out there and kick her ass. It's really that simple. Maybe he can get her that wide stalking trip, you know, the one that works real well on POLY.

I hope now more than ever that he brings Rachel to the BC. He only needs to give her to Doug Salvatore to train because Assman's stats on Poly are really bad. If DrugS can't do it can you fill in, Fats?

NT

letswastemoney · #23 08-09-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank

And a Cal bred that ran a 75 last out.Boy those SoCal G-1's is tough.

Lethal Heat is a good horse and a graded stakes winner. She obviously wasn't ready off the layoff last time out

Sightseek · #24 08-09-2009, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Lethal Heat is a good horse and a graded stakes winner. She obviously wasn't ready off the layoff last time out

It doesn't take much to be a stakes winner as an older horse these days.

CSC · #25 08-09-2009, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

You want them to try and save ground with that heffer?

Come on, there's only one style with that mare and that's exactly how Smith rides her.

That was an exciting race and certainly the pace worked against her, so it shows what a quality horse she is. That being said, I turned TVG off immediately after the race because I needn't hear one more second of Todd Schrupp's bombastic proclamations about Zenyatta.

NT

I'm one of those guys that loves a race to look pretty, you know split horses late, save ground thread a needle...I hate 4 path no excuse uncovered when clearly she is last trips swing from the 4 path to the 6 path runs...I know I need help, seriously one of these days I can see Mike having a bullseye on him when he costs her a race.

Left Bank · #26 08-09-2009, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

It doesn't take much to be a stakes winner as an older horse these days.

Especially in SoCal

letswastemoney · #27 08-09-2009, 08:22 PM

I don't think Zenyatta will win the Pacific Classic though if she runs there. Rail Trip will crush her

The Indomitable DrugS · #28 08-09-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox

Del Mar Website has her coming home the final 1/4 in 22.57. That is smoking.

She made up 4.5 lengths on Anabaa's Creation through the final 2.5 furlongs.

People don't realize that the paces always appear slow going 8.5 furlongs at Del Mar.

Yesterday Alw Race: 24.82 49.62 1:14.13 1:38.17 1:44.36

Zenyatta Race: 23.86 48.84 1:13.64 1:37.28 1:43.24

Alw race first quarter: 24.82 - Alw race final 6.5fs: 1:19.54

Zen race first quarter: 23.86 - Zen race final 6.5fs: 1:19.38

10 pnt move up · #29 08-09-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by outofthebox

Del Mar Website has her coming home the final 1/4 in 22.57. That is smoking.

thats slow, RA would come up sub 20

The Indomitable DrugS · #30 08-09-2009, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I hope now more than ever that he brings Rachel to the BC. He only needs to give her to Doug Salvatore to train because Assman's stats on Poly are really bad. If DrugS can't do it can you fill in, Fats?

NT

She will run terrible out there.

10 pnt move up · #31 08-09-2009, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

She made up 4.5 lengths on Anabaa's Creation through the final 2.5 furlongs.

People don't realize that the paces always appear slow going 8.5 furlongs at Del Mar.

Yesterday Alw Race: 24.82 49.62 1:14.13 1:38.17 1:44.36

Zenyatta Race: 23.86 48.84 1:13.64 1:37.28 1:43.24

Alw race first quarter: 24.82 - Alw race final 6.5fs: 1:19.54

Zen race first quarter: 23.86 - Zen race final 6.5fs: 1:19.38

Who cares about the final 6.5? What is the final 2.5, that is what I would look at? If its less then 30 its flying.

Danzig · #32 08-09-2009, 08:39 PM

anyone hoping for her to go vs males next out off another crusher vs her own sex can forget it. no way they take on males now, when she barely eked out a win at equal weights today. and yes, i know what the pace was early. they want her to go out perfect, so i doubt they take on any challenges at this point as is their right. she's a nice horse for sure, and has been fun to watch.

The Indomitable DrugS · #33 08-09-2009, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Who cares about the final 6.5? What is the final 2.5, that is what I would look at? If its less then 30 its flying.

Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.

2Hot4TV · #34 08-09-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by booner

If TVG was based on the east coast, then he would be carrying on about RA.

I'm getting tired of some of their commentators "bias" for the west coast. I don't care which coast is better.....just give out honest opinions that the horseplayers would listen to. Send the FoxNet crowd packing........

They're not very good at what they do.

Danzig · #35 08-09-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

I'll catch it on Youtube. Watching TVG makes me wish death on the hosts.

i put them on just for zenyatta's race, it was very painful...when they announced the 'win a dinner with todd and simon' contest i just laughed.

2Hot4TV · #36 08-09-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

anyone hoping for her to go vs males next out off another crusher vs her own sex can forget it. no way they take on males now, when she barely eked out a win at equal weights today. and yes, i know what the pace was early. they want her to go out perfect, so i doubt they take on any challenges at this point as is their right. she's a nice horse for sure, and has been fun to watch.

Dream on girl they have to take on the males next or retire her now instead of after the Breeders Cup.

2Hot4TV · #37 08-09-2009, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

i put them on just for zenyatta's race, it was very painful...when they announced the 'win a dinner with todd and simon' contest i just laughed.

That would be like 30 days in jail.

Bobby Fischer · #38 08-09-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

She made up 4.5 lengths on Anabaa's Creation through the final 2.5 furlongs.

People don't realize that the paces always appear slow going 8.5 furlongs at Del Mar.

Yesterday Alw Race: 24.82 49.62 1:14.13 1:38.17 1:44.36

Zenyatta Race: 23.86 48.84 1:13.64 1:37.28 1:43.24

Alw race first quarter: 24.82 - Alw race final 6.5fs: 1:19.54

Zen race first quarter: 23.86 - Zen race final 6.5fs: 1:19.38

the notable thing was zenyatta coming from last into the teeth of the setup.

a side note- 8.5 furlongs is a short distance for her to be running with her size and talent and the goals she has on the horizon. I know it's only August, and she can "only run what they card" etcetc...

10 pnt move up · #39 08-09-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.

Two years ago the surface was a total joke........its only a joke this year. Its actually playing more fair than Santa Anita last winter.

the_fat_man · #40 08-09-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Nashoba's Key won this race 2 years ago closing from dead last into fractions of 25.93 - 51.07 - 1:16.37 ... but that was back when it was really polycrap.

Here are the charts for the last 3 runnings.