The worst take down in history?

NoLuvForPletch · #1 07-31-2009, 09:30 PM

DelMar Race 9...

Yes I am biased, as the 2 gave me a decent Pick 4 score. But seriously, i cannot believe they took this horse down. Those are your buddies Vic, and I have no idea how they could explain that one. Did he come in? Yes. But that happens 6 out of 9 races a day.

the_fat_man · #2 07-31-2009, 09:33 PM

These are the same scumbags that let C Sutherland HERD at ****in' will.

This was just flat out THEFT.

A jock claim, no less.
Anywhere else, and this is looked at for a few seconds and tossed.

This is worse than when I got taken down last year with Seaspeak. This is like a ****in' joke in this game.

RockHardTen1985 · #3 07-31-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

DelMar Race 9...

Yes I am biased, as the 2 gave me a decent Pick 4 score. But seriously, i cannot believe they took this horse down. Those are your buddies Vic, and I have no idea how they could explain that one. Did he come in? Yes. But that happens 6 out of 9 races a day.

"Those are your buddies Vic"

What does Vic have to do with a DQ ? Who cares who he is/is not friends with ? No reasson at all to mention him in your post.

2Hot4TV · #4 07-31-2009, 09:45 PM

I think you got jobbed, but I dont count. Breath deep and let it goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

NoLuvForPletch · #5 07-31-2009, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV

I think you got jobbed, but I dont count. Breath deep and let it goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

Very difficult to do...The stewards stole $900 bucks from me...

DaTruth · #6 07-31-2009, 10:48 PM

After watching the replay, I had to look at the chart to see what the trouble was all about. Maybe the head on shot shows differently, but I don't think the second place horse was impeded one bit.

As another poster wrote, let it go. Certainly don't bet tomorrow, or you will likely make bets you otherwise wouldn't make to get your money back.

dagolfer33 · #7 07-31-2009, 11:13 PM

I will admit, I benefited from this and there was some minor drifting in twice in the stretch. However I could not believe for one second they would take the 2 down. They have let way worse go without changing the order.

SCUDSBROTHER · #8 07-31-2009, 11:15 PM

If allowed to run in a straight path, the 9 would have won. I have no clue why you think another horse should be allowed to make that 9 have to keep moving in to avoid your horse. The 2 is not clear. This is not allowed. It's grounds for a d.q. This is not a hard call. Why should the connections of the 9 have to put up with that? Don't you see the bump that pushed him sideways? It's not only herding, but contact as well. You can not go as fast when running sideways as when running straight. Why should he be forced to stop running straight?(straight is the more effective way to cover ground.) Your only argument against a d.q. would be what caused your horse to be so wide (in the first place.) A third horse was coming out pretty badly, and Quinonez came out to avoid him(more than M. BAZE wanted to allow him to do.) I only watched the race because you were writing about it. I don't care one way or the other, but that's a foul. I don't know why people would think that's not a foul. It's too bad he fouled. It's one of many ways to lose. Baze will turn right around, and just try to get another horse to win. You, on the other hand, lose money. This is why the bettors are almost always more upset to lose than the jock. The jock has many more opportunities to try again. JOCKS can play again for free. You must pay to play again.

NoLuvForPletch · #9 07-31-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If allowed to run in a straight path, the 9 would have won. I have no clue why you think another horse should be allowed to make that 9 have to keep moving in to avoid your horse. The 2 is not clear. This is not allowed. It's grounds for a d.q. This is not a hard call. Why should the connections of the 9 have to put up with that? Don't you see the bump that pushed him sideways? It's not only herding, but contact as well. You can not go as fast when running sideways as when running straight. Why should he be forced to stop running straight?(straight is the more effective way to cover ground.) Your only argument against a d.q. would be what caused your horse to be so wide (in the first place.) A third horse was coming out pretty badly, and Quinonez came out to avoid him(more than M. BAZE wanted to allow him to do.) I only watched the race because you were writing about it. I don't care one way or the other, but that's a foul. I don't know why people would think that's not a foul. It's too bad he fouled.

Becuase if they ruled what happened between the 9 and the 2 a foul there could be a dq in every race. The 2 was initially forced wide. May have slightly bumped with the 9 at the top of the stretch, but the 9 came in toward the rail much of the way through the stretch on his own.

#10 08-01-2009, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If allowed to run in a straight path, the 9 would have won. I have no clue why you think another horse should be allowed to make that 9 have to keep moving in to avoid your horse. The 2 is not clear. This is not allowed. It's grounds for a d.q. This is not a hard call. Why should the connections of the 9 have to put up with that? Don't you see the bump that pushed him sideways? It's not only herding, but contact as well. You can not go as fast when running sideways as when running straight. Why should he be forced to stop running straight?(straight is the more effective way to cover ground.) Your only argument against a d.q. would be what caused your horse to be so wide (in the first place.) A third horse was coming out pretty badly, and Quinonez came out to avoid him(more than M. BAZE wanted to allow him to do.) I only watched the race because you were writing about it. I don't care one way or the other, but that's a foul. I don't know why people would think that's not a foul. It's too bad he fouled. It's one of many ways to lose. Baze will turn right around, and just try to get another horse to win. You, on the other hand, lose money. This is why the bettors are almost always more upset to lose than the jock. The jock has many more opportunities to try again. JOCKS can play again for free. You must pay to play again.

I agree with this post. All horses are entitled to a clear and unobstructed path.

The # 2 started in the 9 path and ended up in the 3 path. He won the race by a nose.

This DOES NOT happen in every race every day. In fact it's quite rare.

Had the #2 maintained a straight path none of this discussion would matter.

IMO the stewards made a tough but correct call.

NoLuvForPletch · #11 07-31-2009, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

"Those are your buddies Vic"

What does Vic have to do with a DQ ? Who cares who he is/is not friends with ? No reasson at all to mention him in your post.

A while back (a little over a year ago) Vic posed a question to us:

"Hey kids. I was sitting chatting with the stewards today. The subject of the stewards announcing and explaining thier own decisions again came up. Not long after Chairman Shapiro stopped by and joined the conversation. I'm not gonna tell you our opinions on the matter. I want yours.

I know there was a thread on this on another site a few weeks back but it did get much play. I really want to hear from you the fans. Believe me your voice on this one will be considered.

Please this one time don't use this thread to bash the CHRB or say the stewards suck. On this one let's try and stick to the initial subject matter.

Thanks in advance for all your responses.

Looking forward to hearing what you think.

Cheers

Goofy"

That's what I meant when I said "I have no idea how they could explain this".