What 2-year-olds have caught your eye to this point? - Page 2

#1 06-05-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unbridled

Minefield is special. A horse that debuted at Keeneland that hasnt been talked about is One Good Yank. He ran one of the best 2yo races at the meet. Completely missed the break and won easily in hand. He'll be returning to the track soon.

Agreed...he is a Yankee Victor colt that the Romans' barn is very high on and his debut was impressive...I think he was entered at CD and scratched for some reason a few weeks ago...

#2 06-05-2006, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Cunnigham,
I saw all three and I thought Minefield was just crazy good. I know that Scta Daddy looks awesome as well, but I'm betting that before its all over that Minefield will be the more accomplished horse. That debut of his was just beyond words.

Yeah, it was very solid...these two work together in the mornings because they are easily Pletcher's fastest juveniles....Personally, I've seen them both work and go against each other and I believe Scat Daddy is a better animal but we'll see...he outworked Minefield twice at CD, which doesn't mean that he is necessarily better than Minefield in the afternoons though....they are both good animals...no doubt about it.

Watch out for Napa Cat...I really believe that he can beat Minefield in next month's Bashford Manor...we'll see

kentuckyrosesinmay · #3 06-05-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Yeah, it was very solid...these two work together in the mornings because they are easily Pletcher's fastest juveniles....Personally, I've seen them both work and go against each other and I believe Scat Daddy is a better animal but we'll see...he outworked Minefield twice at CD, which doesn't mean that he is necessarily better than Minefield in the afternoons though....they are both good animals...no doubt about it.

Watch out for Napa Cat...I really believe that he can beat Minefield in next month's Bashford Manor...we'll see

I have to agree with Mike (oracle) on this one. Minefield is very, very special. There is something about him. He is so impressive and classy. Someone is going to have to step up and beat him considerably for me to change my mind about him.

By the way, it is nice to have someone that is a prominent figure in horse racing posting on here giving us handicapping tips and insider information. Thanks! I hope to meet you one day.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #4 06-05-2006, 08:15 AM

Hey Gator, you and I have the same tastes in horses. Is it out of habit that you pick them out based on conformation because you just picked out two outstanding conformation examples in the breed? I do it too. LOL. Must be the background we come from. Mr. Livingston is about perfect, and I don't say that about too many horses.

Cajungator26 · #5 06-05-2006, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Hey Gator, you and I have the same tastes in horses. Is it out of habit that you pick them out based on conformation because you just picked out two outstanding conformation examples in the breed? I do it too. LOL. Must be the background we come from. Mr. Livingston is about perfect, and I don't say that about too many horses.

It is out of habit. LOL I think his conformation helped him stay sound throughout his racing career... he raced until he was 7!

kentuckyrosesinmay · #6 06-05-2006, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

It is out of habit. LOL I think his conformation helped him stay sound throughout his racing career... he raced until he was 7!

I posted some pictures of my boy Chucker in the "This is me..." thread. He is a very classy/elegant horse and has outstanding conformation too. Sadly, I am selling him because I am going to KY next year, and he is way too classy to be a lead pony. Otherwise, I would just take him with me.

Really, I wish all horses were built like Mr. Livingston. Less soundness issues. This boy has a great column of bone on his legs, and very clean conformation of the legs.

Cajungator26 · #7 06-05-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

I posted some pictures of my boy Chucker in the "This is me..." thread. He is a very classy/elegant horse and has outstanding conformation too. Sadly, I am selling him because I am going to KY next year, and he is way too classy to be a lead pony. Otherwise, I would just take him with me.

Really, I wish all horses were built like Mr. Livingston. Less soundness issues. This boy has a great column of bone on his legs, and very clean conformation of the legs.

I hope someday I can afford a nice mare... I would breed her to him in a heartbeat for that price ($3,500 stud fee.) He was a very consistent racehorse as well and I have heard he wasn't a "hot-headed" horse either. I suspect that his fee will go up soon. It's hard to believe that an El Prado like him has such an affordable stud fee.

kentuckyrosesinmay · #8 06-05-2006, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I hope someday I can afford a nice mare... I would breed her to him in a heartbeat for that price ($3,500 stud fee.) He was a very consistent racehorse as well and I have heard he wasn't a "hot-headed" horse either. I suspect that his fee will go up soon. It's hard to believe that an El Prado like him has such an affordable stud fee.

Wow, only 3,500? For an El Prado? With looks like that? And a temperament to boot? Wow. I have got to invest in a racehorse. I'm already about ready to jump out of my seat to go to Kentucky, and that is a year away. College is so boring.

#9 06-05-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I hope someday I can afford a nice mare... I would breed her to him in a heartbeat for that price ($3,500 stud fee.) He was a very consistent racehorse as well and I have heard he wasn't a "hot-headed" horse either. I suspect that his fee will go up soon. It's hard to believe that an El Prado like him has such an affordable stud fee.

The reason he stands so reasonably is the fact that he has no commerciability in terms of the what future horse buyers and bloodstock agents will be looking to purchase...the auction environment wants a faster, presocious-looking animal, and turf stallions struggle to survive in the American market, especially those that figure to produce routers and horses that won't produce their best until late in their racing careers.

It might be unfortunate, but true....

I believe Powerscourt is a prime example....he is a brilliant turf horse with top class ability, all-around credentials, regal pedigree, brialliant looks and good conformation - yet he is standing for $12,500 because nobody in this country will breed to a turf router and he need to stand for that to get a full book of mares....He would be standing in Europe with more racing success over there, but they never thought he was a good horse on that circuit and he ran his best races in America for one reason or another..

I'd breed to him with the right mare...

Also, aside from turf, you have great value stallions like Victory Gallop that can only stand for $10,000 because nobody wants top wait until 4-years-old for a good horse...they want speed and precociousness....but Victory Gallop gets a pretty solid and sound horse and doesn't get a great book of mares...you just have to be willing to wait on them to develop...

#10 06-05-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kentuckyrosesinmay

Really, I wish all horses were built like Mr. Livingston. Less soundness issues. This boy has a great column of bone on his legs, and very clean conformation of the legs.

CONFORMATION and SOUNDNESS are the best qualities about most El Prados...the ones I've been around were very sound, well-built animals...

kentuckyrosesinmay · #11 06-05-2006, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

CONFORMATION and SOUNDNESS are the best qualities about most El Prados...the ones I've been around were very sound, well-built animals...

That's one area that I can say I am an expert in...conformation analysis. However, it might be the only area...LOL.