Dunkirk -- 2 Questions

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Pedigree obviously had a lot to do with it ... but I would think the nations highest priced yearling would have to look great.

That same year Zensational sold for just $20K as a yearling - and he's by UBS (Dunkirk's sire) out of a multiple stakes winning mare from a great Claibourne family.

I don't disagree that he probably looked good, but you've also got so many other things going on behind the scenes that yearling prices are just unreliable.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He looked small to me compared to Quality Road.

Yeah - QR is a big mofo

[Travis Stone]

If Dunkirk was trained by someone like... Larry Jones, threads like this wouldn't exist.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

If Dunkirk was trained by someone like... Larry Jones, threads like this wouldn't exist.

Yeah - we'd already have conceded the race to him.

[Travis Stone]

Originally I thought 8-1 would not be possible on Dunkirk due to the sheer lack of percentage points to go around. But, looking below, I think it is a pretty fair line:



The above adds-up to 130.8% which is close enough in my opinion. Obviously there are things yet to happen -- Square Eddie for example in the Lexington -- but I assumed he won with this line and I took out Theregoesjojo and Charitable Man and went down Steve's earnings list.

I made Desert Party 12-1 because a lot of public handicappers are picking him, and I think a lot of wise guy 'cappers will as well. I think he has a good shot this year, and felt that was fair.

I think would could happen on this line though is the betting will create a big separation Hold Me Back and Maafaz (who probably doesn't go, but a free $100k is hard to turn down), which will help the top group go down in price.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

I should say he was sold at public auction in '07 not last year.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Why does everyone care why he makes the Derby? Seriously? Everyone thinks pretty highly of Quality Road....and they should. So why not Dunkirk? I'm not chomping at the bit to bet a horse making his 4th start in the Derby, and a smallish horse at that. But he's a lot better than you think IMO. Who should we be talking about?

it just seems that he is garnering more than his share of threads. the derby will run, with or without him. every year there's a hot horse that everyone chats up-invariably one who doesn't make the field. i guess i just don't get excited about the runner up in races as much as some. far too often a horse who didn't have enough to win gets credit for what he almost did, while the winner gets less credit for actually winning. i even saw mention of how summer bird impressed since he was coming late yesterday...

[mclem0822]

Originally Posted by munster705

1. Will he get to run in the Derby?

2. Will he be 10-1 or more if he does run?

Yes I think he gets in. I would be shocked if he went off at 10-1.