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Old 01-29-2009, 02:41 PM
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was he the horse who ran real well against Big Brown in the Haskell or was that Coal Play?
That was Coal Play. Cool Coal Man ran credibly though as he finished third beaten six lengths. He was then trounced in the Travers and Jerome before being shelved.

He's now 3 for 3 at GP with wins at 9 furlongs and one at 6.5. His 3 Beyer figures in those wins are 92, 98, and 106.

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Old 01-29-2009, 03:14 PM
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how do we know the Beyers are correct bigs ?
We don't...at least I don't.

I was just commenting on what I know about KOC.
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:19 PM
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We don't...at least I don't.

I was just commenting on what I know about KOC.

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Old 01-29-2009, 04:45 PM
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I like the horse a lot, but that was one of the first things I thought of when I saw the big number. He loves GP for sure.
True, but this was by far his best race at GP, although I liked his FOY. As a late May foal, maybe he's just now developing into the horse he promised he could be -it seemed like for most of last year, he didn't take any steps forward, just stayed stagnant. He has won at other tracks, so I don't think this improvement is just due to GP.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
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Count me among those eager to see Cool Coal Man run a big figure or impressive race outside of Gulfstream.

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I'm biased, as I have always liked this horse and I am rooting for Nick, but I think he has a chance to do well in one turn races. I agree that he seems to like Gulfstream, but ultimately he probably was going further than he wanted most of the year. By the time he got to the Jerome he had already had a tough year and maybe he didn't like the mud.
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I'm biased, as I have always liked this horse and I am rooting for Nick, but I think he has a chance to do well in one turn races. I agree that he seems to like Gulfstream, but ultimately he probably was going further than he wanted most of the year. By the time he got to the Jerome he had already had a tough year and maybe he didn't like the mud.
Met Mile on the docket maybe?
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Met Mile on the docket maybe?

No Steve. Bob Lapenta and Nick Zito really want to win at Finger Lakes, Thistledown, and River Downs. Plus, they hate Grade 1s, especially ones that can be worth millions in stud value, so why would they be thinking Met Mile?

And I thought Joey was the only one asking me stupid questions today.
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Old 01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
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I'm biased, as I have always liked this horse and I am rooting for Nick, but I think he has a chance to do well in one turn races. I agree that he seems to like Gulfstream, but ultimately he probably was going further than he wanted most of the year. By the time he got to the Jerome he had already had a tough year and maybe he didn't like the mud.
Fair enough and I hope he sticks to one-turn races.

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Old 01-29-2009, 07:37 PM
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Fair enough and I hope he sticks to one-turn races.

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I never thought about the fact that maybe CCM didn't want to stretch out; although is sire did, his broodmare sire is Rubiano.........Heck, if CCM is good enough to win or run well in a race like the Met, I'll be thrilled. Too bad there aren't (if it's true that the colt doesn't want to stretch out) many races for him - if his limit is a 1 1/16. If he can go 1 1/8, that would help enormously.
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No Steve. Bob Lapenta and Nick Zito really want to win at Finger Lakes, Thistledown, and River Downs. Plus, they hate Grade 1s, especially ones that can be worth millions in stud value, so why would they be thinking Met Mile?

And I thought Joey was the only one asking me stupid questions today.

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No Steve. Bob Lapenta and Nick Zito really want to win at Finger Lakes, Thistledown, and River Downs. Plus, they hate Grade 1s, especially ones that can be worth millions in stud value, so why would they be thinking Met Mile?

And I thought Joey was the only one asking me stupid questions today.
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