Most Powerful Handicapping Angles - Page 2

jballscalls · #21 01-25-2009, 03:48 PM

2 routes back to a sprint---Double Bubble Angle
2nd time routing when they were competetive but faded through the lane.
wide through a slow pace.

thats all for now, MORE TO COME

dellinger63 · #22 01-25-2009, 03:54 PM

Biggest drop in racing MSW to Md Claimers

pmacdaddy · #23 01-25-2009, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Biggest drop in racing MSW to Md Claimers

With you there...

letswastemoney · #24 01-25-2009, 04:38 PM

Look for a horse that is returning to its favorite surface.

Also, look for a horse that is popular at the claim box. I mean...if a horse gets claimed 3 times in a row...there must be something about that horse right?

2MinsToPost · #25 01-25-2009, 04:43 PM

2nd itis -

a horse that once passed can't finish the deal

needs the lead nothing else

Bigsmc · #26 01-25-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

and last but not least, anything Kurt Ziadie sents out at Tampa that David Cardoso ISN'T riding.

That duo took down 50% of the Pick 4 today.

dellinger63 · #27 01-25-2009, 04:54 PM

Not sure they apply anymore but the early double is chalk (let's the majorty get some cash for a hot dog or beer) and the last race is the 'jocks race' (meaning the barn or connections that need one, will be given a chance and it's bombs away) This was early 70's logic on how to play the first 2 and last race. And real cappers believed and followed it. How far handicapping has come.

letswastemoney · #28 01-25-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

Not sure they apply anymore but the early double is chalk (let's the majorty get some cash for a hot dog or beer) and the last race is the 'jocks race' (meaning the barn or connections that need one, will be given a chance and it's bombs away) This was early 70's logic on how to play the first 2 and last race. And real cappers believed and followed it. How far handicapping has come.

Well it seems like the reason they schedule the hardest race last is because they want to make the pick 6 difficult.

It's like how...if there's a graded stakes race with an even money lock, they'll move it up earlier in the card out of the pick 6. So the earlier races are always easier on average.

dellinger63 · #29 01-25-2009, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney

Well it seems like the reason they schedule the hardest race last is because they want to make the pick 6 difficult.

It's like how...if there's a graded stakes race with an even money lock, they'll move it up earlier in the card out of the pick 6. So the earlier races are always easier on average.

in the old days it would be an IL Bred Mdn 5K claimers coming in from farms no one ever heard of. Trainers of favorites would already be in Sylvia's (corner bar) watching horses thru the fence seemingly knowing there wasn't much chance of a pic. This was pre pic 6 time and bookies would pay track prices so you know being Chicago in the day there was something to it. Later we had the twin tri but that was after the fire and Arlington was run a bit tighter IMO.

packerbacker7964 · #30 01-25-2009, 05:56 PM

I like when a 1st out winner skips the next condition. All be it with the right trainer but moves like that show they have great reviews on the horse.

Scurlogue Champ · #31 01-25-2009, 06:00 PM

I like when Frankel has anything running on the turf that is foreign bred and/or campaigned.

Like #4 in the upcoming stake at Santa Anita.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #32 01-25-2009, 07:27 PM

andys w list on trips n traps

31lengths · #33 01-25-2009, 08:39 PM

The Goldberg angle. Anything that Hank picks....stay away.

From now on I shall be called - "average schmo".

hi_im_god · #34 01-25-2009, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Where in the world is their a handicapping close at a community college? That has to be one of the coolest college credit EVAH...

Possible online course becuase I will join.

off topic but my college degree includes credits for "geography of wine" (included wine tasting) for a science credit, "history of sex" for a social science credit, and a course that compared classic american film with the actual historical events they were based on for another social science credit.

as it turned out learning about the institution of pederasty in ancient greece wasn't the titillation i expected and the wine class was way tougher than i thought.

Habersham000 · #35 01-26-2009, 08:14 AM

I pay a lot of attention to front wraps....I will never bet a horse first time running with front wraps....also when a horse races with front wraps off for the first time in a series of races I like to take a long look at the horse...

Travis Stone · #36 01-26-2009, 08:44 AM

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Arson Squad in the Meadowlands Cup

Is he Donn H. bound?

That's a good angle though, very strong. With the new surfaces floating around, it helps bury some of those stronger, preferred surfaces a little more. Good stuff!

TheSpyder · #37 01-26-2009, 09:33 AM

Horses third time out with great grass breeding that have been going sprints on the dirt and then moved to the grass.

Horses for courses

Back class of long layoffs that have shown little prior to layoff.(with good trainer)

dean smith · #38 01-26-2009, 09:39 AM

Don't forget to be on the lookout for omens and keep a pad and pencil on the nightstand to write down your dreams for later analysis. Remember, it is just as important to read your tea leaves as it is to read your racing form. When I handicap I always make sure I surround myself with various lucky charms and on big event days (as well as the second Sunday following any new moon), I make sure the sacrifice of a live chicken or goat takes place.

If a horse shows up in the program with the same name or has similar markings as your dead cat, do not dismiss this as "coincidence" or mere superstition. Certain celestial phenomena and planetary alignments often times provide big payouts to those in tune with the heavens. A horse with the same name as your deceased pet may be the cosmos' way of telling you something....especially if it happened to be a fast cat.

dean smith · #39 01-26-2009, 09:53 AM

Okay, the superstition angle was B.S.

Don't know if it falls into the "angle" catagory, or if it's just something to watch out for, but second-timers coming off disappointing debuts in which they broke slowly or held an inside post along the rail are worth a second look. The dirt being kicked in their face for the first time and/or the rail messing with their psyches can make their first trip a trying one. I read this or heard it on the show (can't remember which) and it makes a lot of sense.

Otherwise, I'd really stress the MSW to Maiden Claiming that someone mentioned before as a general handicapping rule or angle.

ArlJim78 · #40 01-26-2009, 04:45 PM

the distance cut-back was mentioned, and while I like this angle in certain spots, its far from fool-proof. some cutbacks are too far or don't make sense, and on some circuits cutbacks don't work worth a damn period. on the contrary, on some circuit cutbacks do very well. you have to do your research.

two examples, last year if you did nothing other than make flat win bets on every horse at Keeneland going route to sprint, you would have made a tidy +16% roi. do the same thing last year at Arlington and you lose 35%, at Santa Anita you lose 45%.

so I guess i'm just saying it is a good angle, but it takes some work to find the spots where it is best used.