Wiphan

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

The worst part of the Castillo deal was that it seemed that there was really no market for him. Minaya was bidding against himself and gave him 4 years to boot.
I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Too bad about the money. They have a new taxpayer funded stadium that will bring in hundreds of millions in revenue. They got it, if they are going to lose they netter at least spend to keep up with the Yankees who are surely going to go crazy this offseason.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by wiphan

OK. I just saw this thread today. It has been an insane weekend! YES the Brewers made it finally. I actually lived in Philly the last time the crew was in the playoffs and I was at the 1983 World Series Phillies vs. Baltimore and had to watch my grandfather gloat as the Orioles won the World Series. I moved to WI in 1989 and have been a fan of the crew ever since. I watched Nolan Ryan win his 300th career game at the old county stadium and have had great memories and a lot of dissapointments being a brewer fan. Today is a great day in WI and hopefully somebody besides CC will show up to pitch in the playoffs.

The other part of my weekend was insane. My wife (shelly) won this contest thru the AQHA (american quarter horse association) and they sent two World Champion trainers to our farm to train her horse for 2 days and take her to an AQHA show. They filmed all of this for a TV show (on RFD TV, mostly on Satelitte). She also won one of her classes so it started Sunday out right and then I got home to watch the Crew win the game and waited in anticipation for the collapse of the METS! It was Awesome. Can't think of a better weekend! I don't even care that the packers lost.

GO CREW!

Congrats!

[SniperSB23]

My wishlist for the offseason:

1) Pickup the option on Delgado.

2) Get one solid starter preferably in the $8 million a year range (possibly Oliver Perez).

3) Get one veteran starter you can plug in the 5 spot early while Niese works his way up by midseason (possibly Pedro).

4) Sign one solid OF that won't break the bank (Raul Ibanez?)

5) Get one of the Big 3 closers (K-Rod, Nathan, Lidge)

6) Pay Fuentes and get him to be the setup man

That would put the Mets payroll right around $130 million which includes the $10.5 million they have to pay Wagner. That is right where they were this year. For $10 million more (realistic with the new ballpark) they could add another bullpen arm and help at 2B.

Rotation would be the same as this year, bullpen would be signficantly improved. Lineup would have Ibanez at one corner OF position, Fernando Martinez and Church at the other, and would get back Schneider at C which would be head and shoulders above what they were sending out the past couple weeks.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

I also heard this morning that whatever money that is coming off the books (Alou, Hernandez, Perez) will go right back on it with raises for Wright,Reyes and Santana.

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Congrats...26 loooooong years

IMO the Cubs would have rather played the Mets than LA. The Mets bullpen I think is worse than the Crew, which is saying a lot.

Baseball Heaven to me would be Crew vs Cubs for NLCS and having the brewers win! I am not saying this will happen, but I would love to see it!

Hopefully the sox can win for you today and then battle the twinkies tomorrow to get in.

[ateamstupid]

Sniper, you don't want Lidge. He's terrible.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by wiphan

IMO the Cubs would have rather played the Mets than LA. The Mets bullpen I think is worse than the Crew, which is saying a lot.

Baseball Heaven to me would be Crew vs Cubs for NLCS and having the brewers win! I am not saying this will happen, but I would love to see it!

Hopefully the sox can win for you today and then battle the twinkies tomorrow to get in.

I am guessing MLB wants that also, to continue building the rivarly....

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Sniper, you don't want Lidge. He's terrible.

I'll admit, I was weary of him when the Phils first signed him, but I have to ask. If 41 for 41 save opportunities is terrible, then what would constitute as being good?

[Scav]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I'll admit, I was weary of him when the Phils first signed him, but I have to ask. If 41 for 41 save opportunities is terrible, then what would constitute as being good?

I was thinking the same thing, but I thought for sure that I either Joey or I were confusing him with someone else....

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I'll admit, I was weary of him when the Phils first signed him, but I have to ask. If 41 for 41 save opportunities is terrible, then what would constitute as being good?

he's had a good year, but he's overrated. Not by any means terrible though. He had me on the edge of my seat Saturday, thank you J ROLL!!

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I'll admit, I was weary of him when the Phils first signed him, but I have to ask. If 41 for 41 save opportunities is terrible, then what would constitute as being good?

He'll cough it up in a pressure situation during the playoffs. Guaranteed.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He'll cough it up in a pressure situation during the playoffs. Guaranteed.

Once maybe, the Mets current bullpen would have coughed it up every game guaranteed. I'll take my chances with Brad Lidge over Luis Ayala anyday.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Pedro frees up $11.5 million, Alou $7.5 million, Hernandez and Perez $6.5 million each. Santana gets a raise of $1 million, Wright gets a raise of $2.5 million, and Reyes gets a raise of $1.75 million.

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Once maybe, the Mets current bullpen would have coughed it up every game guaranteed. I'll take my chances with Brad Lidge over Luis Ayala anyday.

Clearly. I'm just saying I'd take either of the other two guys you mentioned over Lidge in a heartbeat. Lidge isn't in the same league as Nathan or K-Rod.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Are you sure about Sanata? I thought he was making 12 million and now it goes to the 22-23 million per year range.

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

He was making $13.25 on his old deal before he renegotiated, that may be where the confusion comes from.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

It is sooooo nice having CC and Santana out of the AL Central...Imagine having to face both those guys 4-5 times a year? That's why the White Sox are the powerhouse they were this year

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

2008 - $19 million
2009 - $20 million
2010 - $21 million
2011 - $22.5 million
2012 - $24 million
2013 - $25.5 million
2014 - $25 million (team could buyout for $5.5 million)

2014 could become a player option if Santana pitches 215 innings in 2013 or averages over 210 in 2011 to 2013.

Jesus, I am in the wrong industry!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MaTH716

Jesus, I am in the wrong industry!

Not bad for working 34 days a year. And his arm could fall off tomorrow and he'll stick collect all $137.5 million.

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Not bad for working 34 days a year. And his arm could fall off tomorrow and he'll stick collect all $137.5 million.

It will be interesting if CC has a good post season to see what he will get. He already has earned himself some big $ after coming over to the Crew.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by wiphan

It will be interesting if CC has a good post season to see what he will get. He already has earned himself some big $ after coming over to the Crew.

He certainly earned it but I have to imagine teams will be wary after how much he pitched for the Brewers. He managed to throw an extra 17 IP in one extra start after the All Star break than Santana did and Santana was overworked down the stretch. Ultimately it will depend who targets him. I have a feeling the Mets will stay out which means if either the Red Sox or Yankees decide not to get heavily involved he might not get as much money as he deserves.