"The fundamentals of our economy are strong"

[nebrady]

You should know your facts. ABC news last night said that Phil Graham was no longer part of Mccains economic team. Also running the us is not like a company. In a company the boss decides how to run the company. America doesn't work like that. We have checks and balances, that assure the president will not get out of control. Also you have to deal with partisan politics. That is the biggest problem in america, we need a party that actually represents the common folk. Not a congress made up of mostly lawyers who have no idea whats its like be the common person in america.

[timmgirvan]

http://webmail.aol.com/38839/aol/en-...ayMessage.aspx

exactly my point!

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

http://webmail.aol.com/38839/aol/en-...ayMessage.aspx

exactly my point!

Did you just link to your email? Did John McCain teach you how to use a computer?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by nebrady

You should know your facts. ABC news last night said that Phil Graham was no longer part of Mccains economic team. Also running the us is not like a company. In a company the boss decides how to run the company. America doesn't work like that. We have checks and balances, that assure the president will not get out of control.

If Geedubbya (and his "advisors") are good at 1 thing, it's figuring out how to get around these checks n' balances. The fact is that he got us into this war using false information. Of course, he does the sidestep by saying he didn't know it was bad. That may,or may not be true. Fact is he got around the checks n' balances by selling a lie very hard. How do you go to war against Iraq(when you need Congress to back it?)You tell a lie, or you find information that supports what you want to sell. I am amazed that people are so quick to give this guy a pass on this. What's to stop the next guy from doing the same thing? I got bad info. I didn't check it very well, but oh well. Got Congress to do what I wanted. The goal(invading Iraq) was accomplished. This is the way he got around these "checks n' balances." They didn't work. They got around them by selling a lie, and claiming ignorance. Nothing to keep another President from doing it again.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I was sort of hoping for something stupid. You know, you're speciality.

Tsk,tsk!

[ateamstupid]

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

What can Obama do to increase salaries with all of these free trade agreements? Hmm? What's going to prevent employers from taking their business overseas and hiring people to work for practically nothing?

It's over, Johnny. You'll be here again in 2012 complaining about wages and lack of jobs.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

How does paying more taxes make you more patriotic? That is the question i want to know!

I also feel that Obama tax plan will most hurt the people trying to create new jobs for us. How will that help the economy?

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

How does paying more taxes make you more patriotic? That is the question i want to know!

I also feel that Obama tax plan will most hurt the people trying to create new jobs for us. How will that help the economy?

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

I completely understand how the tax structure works. I got into an discussion with a lady I work with, who is close to 50 years old!! who said she didnt want to get a raise because she'd go to a higher tax bracket and actually end up with less $$.. I was like.. you realize you get taxed a certain $ of your first 7,500.. than a higher % for the next amount up to x amount of dollars, etc.

Its not like if you make 59k you are taxed 25% Of all.. then you make 60k and you get taxed 33% of all! I couldnt believe she didnt know that after how many years of doing her taxes?

as far as the bolded part... Democrats have always been great at spending less (and I'm not including G-Dub in the Repub spot cause he spends just at bad as a dem- and pissed off a lot of Repubs doing it)

[TheSpyder]

This is interesting....if it's accurate we spend more on military than the rest of the world combined, oy!

http://www.warresisters.org/pages/piechart.htm

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

I completely understand how the tax structure works. I got into an discussion with a lady I work with, who is close to 50 years old!! who said she didnt want to get a raise because she'd go to a higher tax bracket and actually end up with less $$.. I was like.. you realize you get taxed a certain $ of your first 7,500.. than a higher % for the next amount up to x amount of dollars, etc.

Its not like if you make 59k you are taxed 25% Of all.. then you make 60k and you get taxed 33% of all! I couldnt believe she didnt know that after how many years of doing her taxes?

as far as the bolded part... Democrats have always been great at spending less (and I'm not including G-Dub in the Repub spot cause he spends just at bad as a dem- and pissed off a lot of Repubs doing it)

Yeah, those people just kill me, amazing how many of them are out there too.

I can't see McCain as President being anymore fiscally responsible than Bush. I at least think there is a chance Obama will be.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

We are in a huge deficit and need to reduce it. That means taking in more money and spending less. The best way to do that is by rolling back Bush's tax cut to the wealthy which has done nothing but hurt the economy. So paying more taxes helps reduce the deficit and in turn make the American dollar worth more. Isn't helping your country the patriotic thing to do?

Sometimes I wonder if people even understand the tax structure in this country. I can't believe how many times I've read someone say that now they will pay 50 to 60% of their income on taxes. It's a graduated tax system. On the first $250,000 they will get charged the exact same amount of taxes as people making $249,999. It is only the income over $249,999 that will get taxed at a higher rate and it isn't 50 or 60%.

neither candidates plan reduces the deficit. paying more taxes generally results in the govt spending more money they haven't got--sort of like most people.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

Lori, the richest of the rich have gotten a complete free ride under Bush, and enough's enough. Making wealthy people wealthier is the only thing the Bush administration has consistently stood for, and look at where we are economically. The average salary in America has gone down over $2,000. Guess not enough is "trickling down," eh? Cry me a river about billionaires having to pay an extra couple percent more in taxes, we need an administration that has the average American's interests in mind foremost.

from fact check:

Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by Danzig

from fact check:

Obama said "average family income" went down $2,000 under Bush, which isn't correct. An aide said he was really talking only about "working" families and not retired couples. And – math teachers, please note – he meant median (or midpoint) and not really the mean or average. Median family income actually has inched up slightly under Bush

extremely important to note though that the price of mooseburgers have held steady the past 8 years

[Danzig]

i remember when people said a guy from arkansas couldn't be a good president...he was from arkinsaw for crying out loud. where sarah palin is from, and how big a population there is in alaska, has nothing to do with whether she'd make a good vp or not. or a good president for that matter, if it came to that.
youth, inexperience-now those might keep her from succeeding.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

It's pretty funny when McCain says things that even the batshit crazy Republicans on here can't defend.

Good thing we have people like Jim around to remind us about lipstick and pigs. That's clearly more relevant to who would better serve the American people than unimaginably stupid quotes like "the fundamentals of our economy are strong."

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

You mean he's going to be PRESENT,right?

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

i'm no economic expert, but i don't think the statement that the fundamentals are strong is outrageous. we do have strong fundamentals. do we have a big issues facing us now, yes.
poor choice of words by McCain on black monday, certainly.

speaking of who would serve the American people better, McCain was a leader trying to get Fannie/Freddie reformed for some time. where was Obama? well he was so busy lining his pockets with lobbyist money from Fannie/Freddie, he didn't have time to get involved or to have an opinion. of course he counts the disgraced leaders of these institutions as close advisors, what a shocker.

on the bright side, I understand that any day BO might actually take a stand on the AIG bailout, so far his position is that he isn't second guessing the decision, but not supporting it either. thats like one of his famous "present" votes. first he has to learn that the name of the company is American International Group, and not American Insurance Group.

Are you some kind of wingnut? We are in this spot largely because of deregulation of wall st and who was the king of that? Yes, JOHN MCCAIN.

You think a guy that would say this would be best to lead us during these economic times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ1OB2iLxcY