Who's more incompetent: NYRA Stewards or Gabe Saez? - Page 2

jcs11204 · #21 06-28-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If there's a re-match in the Alabama, who do you take? I think Music Note would like the 10F distance better, and Proud Spell will be underlaid based on today's trip.

i am a pick 3 and 4 player, so from a gambling point of view i'd probelly use both of them, like i did today... and whoever else looks decent, LOTS OF very good fillies could show up in the alabama....

just looking at it from who i think is better, the sky might be the limit for music note, but i want to see her beat the best, when the best gets even a decent trip, todays trip was a nightmare. so i would say proud spell still.

Indian Charlie · #22 06-28-2008, 09:51 PM

I think Proud Spell's chances would have been greatly improved if Shaq had ridden her.

jcs11204 · #23 06-28-2008, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I think Proud Spell's chances would have been greatly improved if Shaq had ridden her.

haha
how funny

ELA · #24 06-28-2008, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

haha
how funny

Yeah, he's done a terrible job with her.

Eric

Bobby Fischer · #25 06-28-2008, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

If there's a re-match in the Alabama, who do you take?

NYRA Stewards, and Saez will both be chalk, I probably pass on that wager.

jcs11204 · #26 06-28-2008, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

Yeah, he's done a terrible job with her.

Eric

what ?
im lost

ELA · #27 06-28-2008, 10:03 PM

I was referring to Saez, and obviously I was being sarcastic.

Eric

Indian Charlie · #28 06-28-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

what ?
im lost

Dude, forget it.

This is the guy who thinks Rose didn't hit that filly in the face on purpose and that trainers don't juice. Certain trainers that is.

He obviously didn't see the race today either.

Indian Charlie · #29 06-28-2008, 10:12 PM

This is painful.

jcs11204 · #30 06-28-2008, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

This is painful.

im lost again

Indian Charlie · #31 06-28-2008, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

Originally Posted by ELA
I was referring to Saez, and obviously I was being sarcastic.

Eric

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Originally Posted by jcs11204

me laughing was being sarcastic, i did not find the shaq comment funny at all

This is what I find painful. Is that better? I quoted your post that you deleted!

jcs11204 · #32 06-28-2008, 10:16 PM

[quote=Indian Charlie]This is what I find painful.[/

lol
it will be ok

ELA · #33 06-28-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

Dude, forget it.

This is the guy who thinks Rose didn't hit that filly in the face on purpose and that trainers don't juice. Certain trainers that is.

He obviously didn't see the race today either.

I could see how much of a waste of time it would be for you to make an effort to participate in an intelligent conversation. I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment from you. Don't worry, I won't keep waiting.

Eric

jcs11204 · #34 06-28-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA

I could see how much of a waste of time it would be for you to make an effort to participate in an intelligent conversation. I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment from you. Don't worry, I won't keep waiting.

Eric

now this is kind of funny
LOL

Indian Charlie · #35 06-28-2008, 10:22 PM

You two keep good company.

How that for an intelligent remark?!

docicu3 · #36 06-28-2008, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

One of the most awful rides you'll ever see - and one of the most idiotic DQ's you'll ever see.

It was a real joy to watch all that happen!

Alan Garcia did ride a brilliant race - and that is actually the first time I've ever seen a rider get put up a placing who did that much race riding from the break to the 1/8th pole.

This is exactly the kind of thing that Vic S. was asking the DT community about the only difference being this was NY and that Vic was asking what the fans want from California stewards when a ruling is made that alters the order of finish. In california you get the telestrator explanation with a narrative.

Of course if the NY stewards tried to explain, as California does, what they were doing and why the order of finish changed in this race it is likely more controversy would lead to even more outrage than the silence of a strange and almost dirty looking ruling.

Bobby Fischer · #37 06-28-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

almost dirty looking ruling.

Almost?

1st garcia does everything he can to take proud spell out of the exacta, and then the stewards take her down when garcia screws up. The only thing more convincing would be evidence that there was tampering with the starting gate area in front of post positions 1 and 2.

The Indomitable DrugS · #38 06-28-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

This is exactly the kind of thing that Vic S. was asking the DT community about the only difference being this was NY and that Vic was asking what the fans want from California stewards when a ruling is made that alters the order of finish. In california you get the telestrator explanation with a narrative.

Of course if the NY stewards tried to explain, as California does, what they were doing and why the order of finish changed in this race it is likely more controversy would lead to even more outrage than the silence of a strange and almost dirty looking ruling.

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

jcs11204 · #39 06-28-2008, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

I would love to hear the stewards say:

"after reviewing the replay - we have concluded that Garcia almost fouled Saez on three seperate occasions but in our view he didn't quite cross the line each time. Even though they were at meaningful stages of the race and clearly hurt Proud Spell's chances - it was just good ruthless race riding by Garcia. Each time he walked the line - but didn't cross it.

However, when Proud Spell came out in the final 1/16th - he bumped Garcia's mount some as he exploded by her. Though that incident had no impact on the outcome - we believe he crossed the line just enough to warrent a dq."

That would go over very well with the bettors.

i value your opinion....
so with a clean trip, does proud spell win ?

horseofcourse · #40 06-28-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer

Almost?

1st garcia does everything he can to take proud spell out of the exacta, and then the stewards take her down when garcia screws up. The only thing more convincing would be evidence that there was tampering with the starting gate area in front of post positions 1 and 2.

Garcia almost puts Proud Spell and Saez through the fence exiting the turn...drift out running into the Hamsa horse in upper stretch...then starts turning inward after that initiating contact with Proud Spell in mid stretch as Proud Spell was drifting out slightly at that point but not as pronounced as the Garcia horse was bearing inward...then right at the end, Proud Spell drifts out badly but still accelerating away from the Garcia horse and Saez gets dq'd. It's quite upsetting for those of us who had exacta money on Proud Spell and Music Note and bridge jumper place money on Proud Spell!