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Old 06-05-2008, 08:13 AM
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Honestly, I'd just drive to one of the satellite lots and take a bus to the track. I did the same in 2004, one of the most crowded Belmonts in history, and had almost no problem leaving after the race.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:18 AM
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Honestly, I'd just drive to one of the satellite lots and take a bus to the track. I did the same in 2004, one of the most crowded Belmonts in history, and had almost no problem leaving after the race.

do you have any indication where one of those lots is? i figure i'll park somewhere outside the track not in a lot and walk back to the car to beat the traffic but who knows what its going to be like
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:38 AM
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They actually have on-site satellite lots in the general vicinity of the backstretch. You can walk to them, but it has to be about a mile walk. There are similar spots nearer the main gate off the...Cross Island, maybe?
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:52 AM
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do you have any indication where one of those lots is? i figure i'll park somewhere outside the track not in a lot and walk back to the car to beat the traffic but who knows what its going to be like
i would not do that down there. its not saratoga. you could end up miles away. as someone said the backstretch satellite is fine(the parking lot is huge) . then take the shuttle. stay till the last race, many people rush out after the belmont. i don't leave until the last race , it will be like 7:30. but by then many have left. if you are in a hurry well, good luck to you.
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Old 06-05-2008, 10:02 AM
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Plus, the Stanley Cup has been decided and there isn't anything great to catch on tv on Saturday night anyway.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:22 PM
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Weather as of right now is supposed to be very nice. I can't imagine there not being 100,000 people there.
95 is nice? The men's rooms will be overrun by wimmin by the 6th race
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:49 PM
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I've made the Belmont in 1977, 1987, and 1989....all with the Triple Crown on the line. Yes, a few years ago, I know.

I walked up without a ticket each time, and had no difficulty.

For Slew in 1977, I was in college and we made it to the Elmont area from a Manhattan bar at about 3AM. Found a closed gas station in a quasi residential neighborhood and slept in the car there for a couple hours until the owner woke us up at about 5:30. Got in line at the track at 6AM, and literally were in the first group of five to go through the turnstile. Ended up with finish line seats in the grandstand.

And, after the fact, realized that Son of Sam had the area where we slept on his targeted ground zero for his 1977 killings...

For both Alysheba and Sunday Sillence I arrived between 9AM and 10AM, and still had no trouble at all parking in the general lot and getting in. I wasn't picky about the seats, as I knew I planned to roam.

For both Alysheba and Sunday Silence I staked out a place on the paddock rail about the 5th or 6th race, and ended up with great photos of the horses before they took the track.

If I were to offer a recommendation, it would be to make the focus objective of your Belmont day to get an unobstructed close up look of Big Brown in the paddock walk.

And a photo to prove you were there at the paddock at the time and on the day.
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Old 06-05-2008, 11:58 PM
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I've made the Belmont in 1977, 1987, and 1989....all with the Triple Crown on the line. Yes, a few years ago, I know.

I walked up without a ticket each time, and had no difficulty.

For Slew in 1977, I was in college and we made it to the Elmont area from a Manhattan bar at about 3AM. Found a closed gas station in a quasi residential neighborhood and slept in the car there for a couple hours until the owner woke us up at about 5:30. Got in line at the track at 6AM, and literally were in the first group of five to go through the turnstile. Ended up with finish line seats in the grandstand.

And, after the fact, realized that Son of Sam had the area where we slept on his targeted ground zero for his 1977 killings...
Hell of a story man.
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Old 06-06-2008, 12:04 AM
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Hell of a story man.
Thanks.

:-)

Another true story is that I made my first Kentucky Derby in 1975, and loaded up on Master Derby (well, $20 across the board in my youth) as he ran 4th in the Foolish Pleasure year.

My most vivid memory of that day was seeing people I had gone into the infield with at about 8AM puking in Kentucky Fried Chicken buckets at 10AM from drunkenness.

THAT'S a helluva story, too!
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:36 AM
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There'll be 120,000 people, beer or no beer. You can't bring beer into the Derby, and that doesn't stop 150,000 people from showing up every year.
As for the question, GA doesn't get you a seat, which I don't think is necessarily a bad thing. You can roam the track and look for a good spot in the morning, and $10 is way better than some of the absurd prices people are paying that won't get them a great view anyway.

Don't buy a GA ticket from anyone on the street. Walk up to the gate and buy one. I doubt they'll turn anyone away, but if they do, it'll probably be in the afternoon.
Attendance : less than 100K

Maybe if every once in a while you guys said, hey I was wrong, the non kiss asses of the group might feel a little more love towards you and your stupid ass posts. Not that you would care. But perhaps you should have a little more respect for what others post on the board.

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Old 06-08-2008, 01:41 AM
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It was 95 degrees and Casino Drive scratched.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:23 AM
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only 97k, a 20% drop from when smarty went for the triple.
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:23 AM
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:25 AM
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It was 95 degrees and Casino Drive scratched.
So, with CD scratching, wasn't it more likely to see a triple crown winner, if that's what the 150,ooo people were coming to see?
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Old 06-08-2008, 09:53 AM
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Attendance : less than 100K

Maybe if every once in a while you guys said, hey I was wrong, the non kiss asses of the group might feel a little more love towards you and your stupid ass posts. Not that you would care. But perhaps you should have a little more respect for what others post on the board.
Are you seriously wound up over an attendance prediction? You, along with a lot of others, take what is said here (an internet message board) way, way too seriously.

The posters that seem to be getting the most backlash (ateam, btw, Pants, Hoss, etc...) should all be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of their posts are misconstrued, because of their writing style, as condescending or an attack. Before getting yourself cranked up over a post, take a step back and realize where we are here. This is a horse racing message board, no more no less.

I'm not sure how ateam is a kiss ass, maybe you can enlighten me on that one. No one needs to come on here and find a thread that they made a prediction on, to say I was wrong. If that was a rule, PG1985 would get awful tired looking up old threads to say he was wrong.

Lighten up a bit.
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:00 AM
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Attendance : less than 100K

Maybe if every once in a while you guys said, hey I was wrong, the non kiss asses of the group might feel a little more love towards you and your stupid ass posts. Not that you would care. But perhaps you should have a little more respect for what others post on the board.
i was wrong...
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Old 06-08-2008, 10:08 AM
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first time for everything....
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Old 06-08-2008, 04:10 PM
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Attendance : less than 100K

Maybe if every once in a while you guys said, hey I was wrong, the non kiss asses of the group might feel a little more love towards you and your stupid ass posts. Not that you would care. But perhaps you should have a little more respect for what others post on the board.
Perhaps the 100+ heat index kept some people away?

I was wrong. I never have a problem saying that.

I'd rather be wrong once in a while and admit it than be widely recognized as the board crybaby who bitches about the price of the DRF being high, the post time of the Belmont being one interminable hour too late, the sun being too bright, airplanes being too loud, the waiting room at the dentist, the one sesame seed on his plain bagel, etc.

The second I start caring about what people like you think of me is the second you'll stop incessantly complaining about imaginary injustices.

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There'll be 120,000 people, beer or no beer. You can't bring beer into the Derby, and that doesn't stop 150,000 people from showing up every year.
.. a disrespectful post?
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
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Are you seriously wound up over an attendance prediction? You, along with a lot of others, take what is said here (an internet message board) way, way too seriously.

The posters that seem to be getting the most backlash (ateam, btw, Pants, Hoss, etc...) should all be taken with a grain of salt. A lot of their posts are misconstrued, because of their writing style, as condescending or an attack. Before getting yourself cranked up over a post, take a step back and realize where we are here. This is a horse racing message board, no more no less.

I'm not sure how ateam is a kiss ass, maybe you can enlighten me on that one. No one needs to come on here and find a thread that they made a prediction on, to say I was wrong. If that was a rule, PG1985 would get awful tired looking up old threads to say he was wrong.

Lighten up a bit.
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If it were only the attendance that was the issue.

Actually I think the board wants to be taken seriously. I don't think that the main players "have time" for those they feel to be below "their" level of knowledge. Guys like DaHoss and ATeam are all part of what I would call the Pillow Pants Posse, and they spend way to much time attacking people in a condescending way, as you've noted. Nobody really deserves to be abused the way these guys continually pound away. They all do their best to emulate Andy. While I don't know anyone from the PPP, I do know Andy, and however he wishes to express himself on the board, so be it. The guy has more knowledge than 99.9% of the people posting here and I'm willing to take his criticisms, and delivery of them, because I would bet that whatever he was saying wasn't just for the pleasure of beating someone down. I'm willing to bet the PPP has about an average level of knowledge at best, probably no more or less than myself. But they act like they are Steve Crist, Andy Beyer and Joe Hirsch.
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Old 06-08-2008, 05:53 PM
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If it were only the attendance that was the issue.

Actually I think the board wants to be taken seriously. I don't think that the main players "have time" for those they feel to be below "their" level of knowledge. Guys like DaHoss and ATeam are all part of what I would call the Pillow Pants Posse, and they spend way to much time attacking people in a condescending way, as you've noted. Nobody really deserves to be abused the way these guys continually pound away. They all do their best to emulate Andy. While I don't know anyone from the PPP, I do know Andy, and however he wishes to express himself on the board, so be it. The guy has more knowledge than 99.9% of the people posting here and I'm willing to take his criticisms, and delivery of them, because I would bet that whatever he was saying wasn't just for the pleasure of beating someone down. I'm willing to bet the PPP has about an average level of knowledge at best, probably no more or less than myself. But they act like they are Steve Crist, Andy Beyer and Joe Hirsch.
You're reading way too much into this.

You're a whiner. I call you a whiner (and I'm far from the only one who does so). You get mad. You whine some more. That's generally what happens.

Plus, in this thread, I don't see how I was at all disrespectful to you.
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