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Old 05-25-2008, 09:47 AM
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LOL should be for your ridiculous belief that they won't retire him. This is IEAH. The value of the horse can only go down by racing. He can win every race the rest of the year and his value won't increase. He has soundness issues and keeping him around for the fall isn't going to make any breeder forget that.

As for Casino Drive, you really should start referring to him as the Belmont winner Casino Drive. You are going to see a romp in the Belmont, just not from Big Brown.
altho i wouldn't be surprised if they retired him, they already have a deal with three chimneys, which allows ieah to run him thru years' end.

as for casino drive, i don't know why you have such a hard on for a two time starter, but i'd say your hype of a relative unknown is far more ridiculous than anyone else's doubts about his ability.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:39 AM
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If he has one then you are kidding yourself if you think they will run him at 12f against somebody like Casino Drive.

He is worth too much and I am sure insurance companies will step in here. He will be retired if it is true.
A horse prone to quarter cracks with
a genetic backgroud that shows a disposition
towards quarter cracks.

So we got to get those genes passed on
because he is worth too much...

Houston we have a market problem.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:46 AM
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A horse prone to quarter cracks with
a genetic backgroud that shows a disposition
towards quarter cracks.

So we got to get those genes passed on
because he is worth too much...

Houston we have a market problem.
Besides the subject horse, what other horses in his close genetic background show a disposition to quarter cracks? Also, has it been proven that a tendency to quarter cracks can be passed along? I know that his line is filled with unsound horses, but I'm not convinced that quarter cracks can be passed along. If anything, Big Brown will have problems passing on any genes at all ... his sire had been documented as having fertility problems and Danzig didn't have the easiest of times either.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:54 AM
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Besides the subject horse, what other horses in his close genetic background show a disposition to quarter cracks? Also, has it been proven that a tendency to quarter cracks can be passed along? I know that his line is filled with unsound horses, but I'm not convinced that quarter cracks can be passed along. If anything, Big Brown will have problems passing on any genes at all ... his sire had been documented as having fertility problems and Danzig didn't have the easiest of times either.

I am much more convinced quarter cracks
can be passed on than speed and endurance.

If one were to ask any sane person who knows
anything about genetics to weigh the two against
each other (speed/endurance v. quarter cracks)
it would clearly be an anatomical developmental
flaw which a quarter crack is.

And I am not convinced a quarter crack must
be genetic either. But is more likely to be than
speed and endurance. Thats for sure.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:00 AM
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Besides the subject horse, what other horses in his close genetic background show a disposition to quarter cracks? Also, has it been proven that a tendency to quarter cracks can be passed along? I know that his line is filled with unsound horses, but I'm not convinced that quarter cracks can be passed along. If anything, Big Brown will have problems passing on any genes at all ... his sire had been documented as having fertility problems and Danzig didn't have the easiest of times either.
Northern Dancer.

It rears its ugly head here and there.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:12 AM
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Besides the subject horse, what other horses in his close genetic background show a disposition to quarter cracks? Also, has it been proven that a tendency to quarter cracks can be passed along? I know that his line is filled with unsound horses, but I'm not convinced that quarter cracks can be passed along. If anything, Big Brown will have problems passing on any genes at all ... his sire had been documented as having fertility problems and Danzig didn't have the easiest of times either.
Boundry had terrible feet. I know firsthand because I once helped his blacksmith patch a quartercrack on his foot.
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Old 05-25-2008, 09:41 AM
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According to John Pricci, there will be a 11am press conference at Belmont to announce that BIG Brown has a quarter crack. This was just told by Pricci on the Capital OTB show Trackfacts.
Your chances of outright winning our bet just increased by leaps and bounds.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:00 AM
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Your chances of outright winning our bet just increased by leaps and bounds.


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Old 05-25-2008, 10:06 AM
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anyone airing the press conference??
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:08 AM
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anyone airing the press conference??
Don't see anything on ESPN, even on their news crawl.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:11 AM
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yeah, i checked them and both horse racing networks...nothing.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:11 AM
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I think we have been had, capital otb is not talking about bb being out they are talking about him winning in 2 weeks , no press conference yet
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:12 AM
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Leaning towards no... leaning heavily... lots of folks heard whispers yesterday.
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Old 05-25-2008, 10:15 AM
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It might be but foot problems don't mysteriously go away. Especially ones that keep a horse on the sidelines for half a year.
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Old 05-25-2008, 11:17 AM
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its for real. they are saying he could still run. of course it will be patched up or a bar shoe. you really think he wants to scratch him? everyone thinks dutrow is a blow hard. but theres a reason he does not want to run this horse every few weeks. why do people act surprised about this. everyone knew he might not make it going in to the TC!
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