1987 Awesome year of horse racing - Page 2

King Glorious · #21 05-20-2008, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

Just pulled his PPs. Seeking the Gold broke his maiden at Hialeah on December 26, 1987 (race 11). He won by 11 lengths, getting 6F in 1:09.4, not a bad debut!!

I'll never forget his effort in the 1988 Travers. Beaten a nose despite Pat Day putting up one of the silliest rides ever.

I was at Hialeah that day. I remember being upset cause I couldn't be at Santa Anita but I wasn't upset anymore after seeing that performance. He was an underrated horse but put up some big races. In addition to that Travers was the narrow Haskell loss to that same Forty Niner. In fact, both of them are underrated horses. He had a great run in the Classic also but I felt that Alysheba was never in danger, pretty much the same way I felt Sunday Silence was never in danger the next year. McCarron was a master.

#22 05-20-2008, 01:25 PM

I'd like to suggest 1967 as a pretty darn good year.

4 yr olds: Buckpasser, Moccasin and Assagai.
3 yr olds: Dr. Fager, Damascus, Proud Clarion, Gamely, Fort Marcy and Cool Reception
2 yr olds: Forward Pass, Dancer's Image, Dark Mirage, Exclusive Native, Sir Ivor and Vaguely Noble.

Of course, 1968 saw the introduction of Shuvee, Arts & Letters, Reviewer, Majestic Prince, Ta Wee, Ack Ack and Gallant Bloom. Another great year.

Split Rock · #23 05-20-2008, 03:27 PM

Great replys from everyone. Thank you.

Agreed that Seeking the Gold and Winning Colors were non issues in '87 and in fact, the 2 year old crop of racers that year were so-so, other than Forty Niner. Also, Manila absolutely belonged on that list as well as Cutlas Reality and Afleet.

1967 looked good, too, but it was way before my time so I have no reference point.

The thing that was so cool about racing in '87 through '90 was how often the accomplished horses kept running. To think we had Easy Goer and Sunday Silence racing in 1990 and geared up for a head to head matchup at Arlington before they were injured is amazing. This whole retire before they lose or get injured is killing racing. Just killing it. The best horses rarely keep running (Curlin is an exception).

It's so odd to think that horses are bred to run and as soon as they run a good race or two, they are immediately sent to breed others that can run a handful of times. How many stallions does this country really need?

King Glorious · #24 05-20-2008, 03:52 PM

Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

slotdirt · #25 05-20-2008, 03:59 PM

Red Ransom:

http://www.bloodhorse.com/stallion-r...n=singlesearch

Cannon Shell · #26 05-20-2008, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

Are you kidding?

King Glorious · #27 05-20-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you kidding?

Not that I know of.

blackthroatedwind · #28 05-20-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you kidding?

I just let it go.

King Glorious · #29 05-20-2008, 05:29 PM

Wow. Excuse me for asking.

freddymo · #30 05-20-2008, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Are you kidding?

Let it go it's the internet..Don't you love it?

Danzig · #31 05-20-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Crusader Sword was my early 2yo favorite that year. I was a huge fan of Mack Miller and Paul Mellon's Rokeby Stables. Speaking of which, does anyone remember what happened with two of their really good prospects, Red Ransom and Eastern Echo? I really liked both of them. Also, Shug McGaughey had a nice young filly back in 1991 named Grand Gala. Anyone remember her or what happened to her?

you must not follow breeding much...red ransom turned into a heck of a sire. eastern echo (one i liked) did ok, but then died at 16 of a heart attack. buddy gil and swiss yodeler are probably his best known progeny.

Cannon Shell · #32 05-20-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Wow. Excuse me for asking.

He sired a freakin Dubai WC winner!!!

Danzig · #33 05-20-2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He sired a freakin Dubai WC winner!!!

yeah..poor electrocutionist. he was a nice horse.

VOL JACK · #34 05-20-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Good call. I didn't realize Hialeah opened before the New Year. Thanks. I do know that I hit that late double.

Seeking the Gold was a terrific horse. He came damn close to beating Alysheba in the Classic. Looked for a second like he was going to go right by him.

I watched that race last night on HRTV. Aly never let a horse go by once he was in front. I actually think he wouldve won the TC if McCarron would have listened to JVB and put him on the lead in the Belmont. He was such a great balanced horse, a true athlete.

blackthroatedwind · #35 05-20-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

Wow. Excuse me for asking.

You are constantly explaining why everyone in racing does everything wrong with their horses while not knowing what became of Red Ransom and Eastern Echo.

It doesn't exactly strengthen your position.

King Glorious · #36 05-20-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

you must not follow breeding much...red ransom turned into a heck of a sire. eastern echo (one i liked) did ok, but then died at 16 of a heart attack. buddy gil and swiss yodeler are probably his best known progeny.

Thank you for at least attempting to answer the question. You are correct. I don't follow breeding at all. I have zero interest in it so I don't know who has sired whom 98% of the time. What I was trying to find out is if anyone remembered what happened to them on the track, as far as what injuries there were that took them out of racing. Again though, thank you for attempting. I was beginning to think everyone was an ass for no reason.

King Glorious · #37 05-20-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You are constantly explaining why everyone in racing does everything wrong with their horses while not knowing what became of Red Ransom and Eastern Echo.

It doesn't exactly strengthen your position.

You are amazing to me. I almost always preface my comments with "IMO" and many times, I've clearly stated that so and so trainer or owner obviously knows more about their own horses than I do before saying what I think I'd do with their position as far as I know it.

I have no position. I just look for reaction. Thank you for your usual and expected response.

blackthroatedwind · #38 05-20-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

I don't follow breeding at all.

Which is why you constantly come up with unrealistic and convaluted schedules for horses that you seem to think make sense and nobody else in the game would follow for reasons you have now told us you don't understand at all.

Thanks for clearing that up.

King Glorious · #39 05-20-2008, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Which is why you constantly come up with unrealistic and convaluted schedules for horses that you seem to think make sense and nobody else in the game would follow for reasons you have now told us you don't understand at all.

Thanks for clearing that up.

Again, thank you. Much appreciated.

blackthroatedwind · #40 05-20-2008, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious

You are amazing to me. I almost always preface my comments with "IMO" and many times, I've clearly stated that so and so trainer or owner obviously knows more about their own horses than I do before saying what I think I'd do with their position as far as I know it.

I have no position. I just look for reaction. Thank you for your usual and expected response.

Yes, and we explain to you why and you don't listen and now you have cleared up why you have no understanding of why people do the things they do.