Valenzuela wanted in California

[Scav]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I am very glad for the success of your friend and wish him further success in his recovery. I am still shaking my head and smiling about your comments that the physician shortage in certain specialties can be remedied
by training nurses to do physician care. After 10 years of training following college and having to borrow a quarter million dollars I find it amusing that an individual with less than half the training can practice critical care with 6 extra months on their 4 year college degree.
When it comes time to have someone stick a 3.5 inch needle blindly in my neck to place a transvenous pacer to save someone's life please call the board certified intensivist for me when I have my heart attack because a jock didn't ride to the wire. Just bustin' you buddy I am actually very fond of most of your opinions.

Where did I say the Bold, I don't even know about physican shortages or training nurse? I don't even know what a training nurse is.....

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

Where did I say the Bold, I don't even know about physican shortages or training nurse? I don't even know what a training nurse is.....

LOL.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

LOL.

Am I missing something here? I never even talked about nurses. If there is an industry i know little about, it is health care, I don't even go to the doctor (I think I have been once in like 9 years or something)

[Payson Dave]

When I had that 4 hour problem awhile back, i called a nurse.... and she was a willing student....

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

When I had that 4 hour problem awhile back, i called a nurse.... and she was a willing student....

oh god..esoteric, here we come

[Payson Dave]

Originally Posted by GBBob

oh god..esoteric, here we come

yep she screamed that several times during the "training"

[GPK]

I do hope Pat finds the help he needs.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Payson Dave

yep she screamed that several times during the "training"

I laughed

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Scav

Am I missing something here? I never even talked about nurses. If there is an industry i know little about, it is health care, I don't even go to the doctor (I think I have been once in like 9 years or something)

Scavs if I have you wrong obviously I fall on my sword but I was pretty sure about this from about 4-6 months ago.

If you are falsely accused I have no reason to take you at your word my friend.

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by GPK

Certainly respect your opinion Doc. I was just curious as to why you thought that the disease of addiction has "no cure or effective treatment".

By definition Kev there is no cure for disease characterized by lapses and remission. You can improve the length of remission but never cure it like an infection.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by docicu3

By definition Kev there is no cure for disease characterized by lapses and remission. You can improve the length of remission but never cure it like an infection.

I just disagree with the "no effective treatment" part of your statement. To each his own I guess.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

The ego of so many physicians is simply out of hand.The truth is that the major requirement to be a physician is to be smart,and that's not as rare as you would hope.The greed of these people can't be measured .It's off the scale.Give some top nurses more and more training,and you've got a much better caregiver than these bitter people looking for more and more money.They want more and more money,because they went into something for the pay and the prestige.They usually didn't do it because they had a calling to be spending their time with sick people.Just give me a nurse with extra training.When people realize they can't afford to keep paying so much of their money for healthcare,then they will start to figure it out,but until then it's gunna stay messed up.Wait until the general election gets going,and you'll see the AMA dump their money into McCain's pockets.Whatever it takes to keep good medical care rare and expensive.

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by golfer

How in the world does one have a collision in the drive-thru lane of a fast food restaurant?

i heard he did a hit and run on poor old jack in the box