Guess where Pyro's standing at the end of his career (in eight months)

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by GBBob

Sorry if I missed it, but do we know what the number was?

No. They don't make it public. I'll let you know when I hear.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

No. They don't make it public. I'll let you know when I hear.

I guess I'm more curious/naive as to how they determine that number? Is it ego or formula that drives it..or probably both?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by GBBob

I guess I'm more curious/naive as to how they determine that number? Is it ego or formula that drives it..or probably both?

I don't know much about that side of the business ( to say the least ). I do know the Hard Spun and Street Sense numbers were outrageous.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by CSC

Let them have him I say, I would be more worried if they got a hold of Smart Strike instead who right now is arguably the best sire in North America. Losing him would hurt, he is perhaps as irreplaceable a Stallian there is at the moment.

They arent kidnapping them.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is always nice to see a horses stud plans wrapped up before he wins a grade 1 race.

But Chuck, you aren't taking into consideration the fact that Pyro is currently FAVORED to win a Grade 1. Of course I'm referring to Pool 2 of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands Future Wager, where Pyro closed at a juicy 4-1.

When you consider he'll probably be as low as 4-1 on Derby Day, getting the bet down now just makes sense. I think you would agree with me.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

But Chuck, you aren't taking into consideration the fact that Pyro is currently FAVORED to win a Grade 1. Of course I'm referring to Pool 2 of the Kentucky Derby Presented by Yum! Brands Future Wager, where Pyro closed at a juicy 4-1.

When you consider he'll probably be as low as 4-1 on Derby Day, getting the bet down now just makes sense. I think you would agree with me.

No because they really dont compete with anyone. If there were other entities that were playing on the same level that they are maybe but the fact remains that the horse has never won a grade 1 race. I can see it now the ads , "He was favored to win the Derby in pool 2"

The business aspect is a card to be played by the people cashing out, not the oil barons.You can argue that businesswise it was a good move because we dont know what they paid for him. You could make a case that it would be better for him not to run again because of "injury" because then he will be supported on what he might have done or was supposed to do, instead of actual accomplishment, which is how the Big Browns of the world get famous.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I officially hope he fails miserably.

I like the horse, hope he does not
get hurt, but here is hoping he runs
some real duds.

I now vex him with complete
boredom each time he enters the
gate... complete disinterest in racing.

That's the way I feel, too. I rooted for Curlin in the BC Classic because there was at least a CHANCE he would run again at 4. Had he finished behind Street Sense and/or Hard Spun, the handicap division would be even more depressing this year.

There's only one top 3-yr-old guaranteed to run next year barring injury: El Gato Malo! Let's hope he takes to real dirt.

--Dunbar

[justindew]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No because they really dont compete with anyone. If there were other entities that were playing on the same level that they are maybe but the fact remains that the horse has never won a grade 1 race. I can see it now the ads , "He was favored to win the Derby in pool 2"

The business aspect is a card to be played by the people cashing out, not the oil barons.You can argue that businesswise it was a good move because we dont know what they paid for him. You could make a case that it would be better for him not to run again because of "injury" because then he will be supported on what he might have done or was supposed to do, instead of actual accomplishment, which is how the Big Browns of the world get famous.

Clearly my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that being said, we know the Hard Spun sale had a Grade I clause. Maybe this has a similar bonus.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by justindew

Clearly my original comment was tongue-in-cheek, but that being said, we know the Hard Spun sale had a Grade I clause. Maybe this has a similar bonus.

One would hope