Denis of Cork <96 BSF>

So if this horse is one of the top 5 contenders for the derby then we're looking at a 2:03 and change maybe 2:04 race?

Wow. Can't wait.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Reading thru this thread, and the "" this is my derby horse"", ect... My question is [ with all the derby horses pointed to first sat. of may ]
"" Have we seen the 2008 derby winning horse run this year ..yet ? ""

Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill

Reading thru this thread, and the "" this is my derby horse"", ect... My question is [ with all the derby horses pointed to first sat. of may ]
"" Have we seen the 2008 derby winning horse run this year ..yet ? ""

NO

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

So if this horse is one of the top 5 contenders for the derby then we're looking at a 2:03 and change maybe 2:04 race?

Wow. Can't wait.

You are using an 8 furlong time at Oaklawn to predict the time for the Derby? It was about the exact same time as Smarty Jones for what that is worth.

[2 Dollar Bill]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

NO

Glad to see I wasnt the only one thinking that way also !

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You are using an 8 furlong time at Oaklawn to predict the time for the Derby? It was about the exact same time as Smarty Jones for what that is worth.

Wow.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Denis of Cork rec'd a 96 BSF for yesterday's Southwest effort..

Those that are wanting to embrace David Carroll's exciting colt should not be concerned about the 'finishing kick/closing times' as Oaklawn is a bizarre oval when it comes to this analysis. Remember back to the Afleet Alex and Smarty Jones seasons because the final quarters have frequently seemed slow in this series. Randy Moss discovered years ago that the stretch at Hot Springs runs slightly uphill

Oh yeah, now that you say it, I kind of remember hearing about that uphill thing before. His race still didn't seem that impressive to me given the suspect nature of the competition, but a 96 certainly makes him one of the top contenders at this point.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Thanks...forgot about him. I wonder if he'll get the 9 furlongs.

I don't wonder.....I find it highly unlikely.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Considering that most seemed to like the quality of the field coming in, how does this get brought up after the fact?

" Most " were wrong going into the race if they considered this a quality field. What it was, however, was a good mix and match of horses coming from different races, distances, and jurisdictions. However, there were no horses that screamed " quality " going into the race.

There might, however, be one coming out. But, like others, considering the decent performance chasing by the second finisher, and his resume coming in, I will withhold judgement on Dennis of Cork. He did run well though and in a year that is light on good 3YO performances he certainly looks promising.

[Oaklawnfan]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I had a little different take on the race. I thought it was interesting how he was an up close 4th early. As the leader blazed on, Denis of Cork began dropping back outside of horses. Launched his bid wide and appeared to me at least that he was tons the best. I thought the run he put in from the far turn home was quite impressive and he has now handled 3 different tracks, including Churchill. Maybe I'm grasping for a contender also, but a lot of people were real down on him after the allowance win and he crushed the field yesterday. he at least appears to be improving, which at this point is a very good sign.

I loved this horse from the begining, partly because of the regional connections and the story behind his name. His impressive two previous wins and now this one makes you want to jump on his bandwagon early. I am curious to see if they run him back in the Rebel, and who will ship in to go against him.

[Danzig]

golden yank is supposed to make his three year old debut in the rebel. there's been a lot of buzz about him, so i'm anxious to see if it's warranted.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

" Most " were wrong going into the race if they considered this a quality field. What it was, however, was a good mix and match of horses coming from different races, distances, and jurisdictions. However, there were no horses that screamed " quality " going into the race.

There might, however, be one coming out. But, like others, considering the decent performance chasing by the second finisher, and his resume coming in, I will withhold judgement on Dennis of Cork. He did run well though and in a year that is light on good 3YO performances he certainly looks promising.

what would giant moon do to dennis of cork?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

what would giant moon do to dennis of cork?

Lose to him.

[MisterB]

Wasn't Corks last race a Clue? Went four wide the whole trip, flattened a bit, but lasted. Seems many had the right choice.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by MisterB

Wasn't Corks last race a Clue? Went four wide the whole trip, flattened a bit, but lasted. Seems many had the right choice.

He was wide but I was more impressed that he was able to close off of brutally slow fractions. You don't get that done if you are just a plodder. You have to be a legit closer to close on fresh horses in front of you.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Lose to him.

will see after the gotham

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

will see after the gotham

I don't see how Eaton's Gift winning the Gotham is going to settle anything.

[cakes44]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

what would giant moon do to dennis of cork?

Giant Moon = Lawrence the Roman...without the inflated figs.

[blackthroatedwind]

Giant Moon had sweet trips and was able to handle Spanky Fishbien in photos. Icabad Crane is a better horse.

[cakes44]

I think you are discounting Spanky Fishbein too easily. You must not realize that he was trying to cut into a final quarter that was just under 27 seconds.