Ark. vs LSU

[The Bid]

O-h-i-o

[King Glorious]

After this weekend:
Missouri wins
1-West Va
2-Missouri
3-Ohio St.
4-Ga Tech

Kansas wins
1-Kansas
2-West Va
3-Ohio St.
4-Ga Tech

Oklahoma beats either of them in the Big 12 title game and that opens the door for WV/OSU in the title game. There are two things that could come into play. There is a huge wildcard here.....Kentucky. Kentucky plays against Tennessee. If they Wildcats can beat Tennessee, that puts Georgia in the SEC title game. The Bulldogs are currently ranked 7th but three teams ahead of them will have lost (LSU, Missouri/Kansas, Arizona St) so there is a very good chance that they will be #4 (provided they beat Ga Tech today). If they are in the #4 position after this weekend, a win in the SEC title game over LSU could be enough to jump them up over idle Ohio St. If Tennessee beats Kentucky, they go to the SEC title game instead and that would virtually elimate Georgia's shot at the BCS title game.

The other question is how far down does LSU fall? What if they only fall to the fourth spot? That would still leave them very much in the title chase. If they only fall to fourth, they would still have a chance to move up to #3 when Oklahoma beats the Missouri/Kansas winner. If they are #3 and win the SEC title game, could that be enough to vault them over Ohio St? If that title game win is over #4 Georgia, it could be.

[The Bid]

There is noway LSU could end the season ahead of O-H-I-O with 2 losses

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by The Bid

There is noway LSU could end the season ahead of O-H-I-O with 2 losses

They would be behind OSU after this week but I wouldn't have any problem with them leaping over OSU if they were to beat Georgia in the SEC title game. That would be six wins over teams that were ranked at the time of them playing them, including wins over Va Tech, Florida and Georgia, three teams that are in the top 10 in the country now. OSU's resume comes nowhere close to matching that.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You probably were all over Ryan Leaf too

You probably watched Dan Marino have pitiful games at Pittsburg because of poor offensive sets.
The only way the kid is not taken very high is if he is a head case. He can do everything well.
Reguardless what happens today. Is he a head case?

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

They would be behind OSU after this week but I wouldn't have any problem with them leaping over OSU if they were to beat Georgia in the SEC title game. That would be six wins over teams that were ranked at the time of them playing them, including wins over Va Tech, Florida and Georgia, three teams that are in the top 10 in the country now. OSU's resume comes nowhere close to matching that.

They also have losses to a 5 loss team and a 4 loss team at home. They will be playing Tennessee anyway it looks. This year's LSU team is one of the most overrated teams in college football history. They are fortunate they don't have 3 or 4 losses. I would put Oklahoma in the title game ahead of them if Oklahoma beats Kansas or Missouri next week considering Oklahoma's loss to Texas Tech was with Sam Bradford sitting on the bench. LSU is good and beat some good teams, but they were very fortunate to beat both Auburn and Florida. To me losing at home to a 4 loss Arkansas team disqualifies them regardless. Texas Tech is as good as Arkansas and Oklahoma played without their quarterback on the road that game. I would honestly put USC ahead of LSU at this point as well. I think they're better as well. And since they're not playing each other, I would also rank Georgia higher than LSU.

It's all a goat rope anyway. This is why you need a 16 team playoff, or at the very least an 8 team playoff so they can all play each other...because there are no definitive number 1 or 2 teams this year anyway and most years there aren't. What I would love to see is just what you're saying and actually have West Virginia lose, and have the Kansas/Missouri winner lose to Oklahoma and then we can all decide which TWO loss team belongs in the chamionship game to play a not really strong Ohip State team!! you'd have all of them scrapping...

LSU
Georgia
Oklahoma
Southern Cal
Virginia Tech or BC
Oregon

which one would it be??

then even Hawaii would have a legit claim as well.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

a 16 team playoff like the other divisions play would be PERFECT for this year!
sorry CS, i still think lsu and usc are the 2 best teams in the country. osu is a close 3rd. hawaii and wvu are in the top 10 because they would drive everyone crazy with those offenses and their speed.

How many 500+ yard games does LSU have to give up before you SEC guys give it up? And dont give me that overtime stuff because it was 499 going into the OT's. That is a team that without a couple fortunate breaks has 4 losses and is looking mighty strong in the Peach Bowl.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

The only way the kid is not taken very high is if he is a head case. He can do everything well.
Reguardless what happens today. Is he a head case?

He is not better than Brohm.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

They also have losses to a 5 loss team and a 4 loss team at home. They will be playing Tennessee anyway it looks. This year's LSU team is one of the most overrated teams in college football history. They are fortunate they don't have 3 or 4 losses. I would put Oklahoma in the title game ahead of them if Oklahoma beats Kansas or Missouri next week considering Oklahoma's loss to Texas Tech was with Sam Bradford sitting on the bench. LSU is good and beat some good teams, but they were very fortunate to beat both Auburn and Florida. To me losing at home to a 4 loss Arkansas team disqualifies them regardless. Texas Tech is as good as Arkansas and Oklahoma played without their quarterback on the road that game. I would honestly put USC ahead of LSU at this point as well. I think they're better as well. And since they're not playing each other, I would also rank Georgia higher than LSU.

It's all a goat rope anyway. This is why you need a 16 team playoff, or at the very least an 8 team playoff so they can all play each other...because there are no definitive number 1 or 2 teams this year anyway and most years there aren't. What I would love to see is just what you're saying and actually have West Virginia lose, and have the Kansas/Missouri winner lose to Oklahoma and then we can all decide which TWO loss team belongs in the chamionship game to play a not really strong Ohip State team!! you'd have all of them scrapping...

LSU
Georgia
Oklahoma
Southern Cal
Virginia Tech or BC
Oregon

which one would it be??

then even Hawaii would have a legit claim as well.

If there were ever a season where a playoff were needed it is this year. Oklahoma is no great shakes either. After watching the mighty Baylor move the ball up and down the field against them and blowing a 17 point second half lead to Colorado does not impress.

On a turf field Hawaii scores a ton of points on LSU, Oklahoma, Kansas, Mizzou, WV, Ohio St... They may not be big enough on the d line or deep enough to win consistently against those teams but they would put up some #'s on them.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

He is not better than Brohm.

no way is woodson better than brohm.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

no way is woodson better than brohm.

Tell that to Major Applewhite Ppgdn

[Cannon Shell]

By the way what the hell happened to FSU? Did they stop paying the players or something? Maybe they are over the salary cap. Who is recruiting for them now? Isiah Thomas?

[ddthetide]

wvu is in the championship game against kansas, mizzu or osu. osu should knock wvu around. wvu against ku or mizzu, wvu by at least 20. there'd by NO living out here with the hillbillies.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

wvu is in the championship game against kansas, mizzu or osu. osu should knock wvu around. wvu against ku or mizzu, wvu by at least 20. there'd by NO living out here with the hillbillies.

I think on turf, WV wins against any of those teams. WVU is a better version of Illinois.

[otisotisotis]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

no way is woodson better than brohm.

agreed. woodson takes way too long to make decisions, has near 0 escapability. he is a good manager of the game in the trent dilfer sense.
brohm should be the 1st qb drafted, no question.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Tell that to Major Applewhite Ppgdn

I take him ahead of Brohm easily.
The kid has everything.

1. Extremely quick release
2. Strong arm
3. Good view of the field.
4. Speed
5. Strength

The only category of the 5 mentioned above I might give Brohm is #3.
And of course Woodson is only 6' 5". I am totally enamored with everygame I have watched him play despite his mistakes which can be easily corrected. The upside on this kid is HUGE
Bigger than my type.

This is coming from the same guy who told you Cedric Benson was a dime a dozen back when most people had him going #1 and the Bears took him 3 or 4. Pgardn watches.

BTW the best RB in San Antonio who had signed with Arkansas tore his knee up. Probably would have led his San Antonio team to a 5A championship for the first time in a long time. An absolute Hoss.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I take him ahead of Brohm easily.
The kid has everything.

1. Extremely quick release
2. Strong arm
3. Good view of the field.
4. Speed
5. Strength

The only category of the 5 mentioned above I might give Brohm is #3.
And of course Woodson is only 6' 5". I am totally enamored with everygame I have watched him play despite his mistakes which can be easily corrected. The upside on this kid is HUGE
Bigger than my type.

This is coming from the same guy who told you Cedric Benson was a dime a dozen back when most people had him going #1 and the Bears took him 3 or 4. Pgardn watches.

BTW the best RB in San Antonio who had signed with Arkansas tore his knee up. Probably would have led his San Antonio team to a 5A championship for the first time in a long time. An absolute Hoss.

Ok Mel Kiper...

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Ok Mel Kiper...

More importantly Brohm maybe damaged goods.
This season may prove his knee stable, but that
has to be taken into account.

I do agree with Woodson having to make quicker decisions.
That was a good observation by Mr. Otis the elevator.

Mel was the idiot who had Cedric Benson going
number one in the draft, so if that was meant
as a barb. You made a direct hit.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

More importantly Brohm maybe damaged goods.
This season may prove his knee stable, but that
has to be taken into account.

I do agree with Woodson having to make quicker decisions.
That was a good observation by Mr. Otis the elevator.

Mel was the idiot who had Cedric Benson going
number one in the draft, so if that was meant
as a barb. You made a direct hit.

Do you have hair as nice as his?

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Do you have hair as nice as his?

Dont have enough hair to compare.
I think you know what I mean.