Kip Deville to dominate the VA derby

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am inclined to want horses that didn't run in the Colonial Turf Cup. I just think other than the first two finishers in that race nobody ran a lick. Most had pretty good trips, save I suppose Yate's Black Cat, who was eliminated at the break. Kip Deville obviously could win, but something about his last effort smells to me, and I highly doubt in the three weeks between these races that he will have learned to rate comfortably, and MUCH more often than not a horse like this will evaporate. I will be very interested to see how he does in this race and more interested in where and particularly when he shows up again.

I don't know how many saw Proudinsky's race at Arlington but I thought he was very impressive. I recommend taking a good look at it. He broke a half slow and was sluggish early. He did save ground before angling out late on the second turn but as the rider tried to swing him for clear room in the stretch he was hopelessly hemmed in. He then ducked towards the inside, now rallying later than obviously hoped, and still picked his way between horses and was absolutely flying to miss by a bob. This is all the more impressive when you consider the speed NEVER came back, as the winner wired and the third horse stalked him. Now, I realize the field didn't seem super strong on paper but I hardly think he is meeting any killers in Saturday's race.

The only thing I didn't like about that race is the fact that I know Kingship well and I know that colt couldn't run with these kind of horses, nor could Arbuckle Bandit - the close third-place finisher....I discount that ARL race more than anything, BUT he could definately improve in his second start in the States and Tanaka's boys are usually no dumbies, that is for sure...

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

The only thing I didn't like about that race is the fact that I know Kingship well and I know that colt couldn't run with these kind of horses, nor could Arbuckle Bandit - the close third-place finisher....I discount that ARL race more than anything, BUT he could definately improve in his second start in the States and Tanaka's boys are usually no dumbies, that is for sure...

I don't know Joel, Kinship had only one previous turf start, and while it didn't come up a particualrly fast race, it wasn't terrible, and he won by 8ish lengths. Whatever horse he was on the dirt previously becomes completely irrelevent as he is at least OK on the turf. I'm not sure who is so special in this race Saturday.

Believe me, I'm not crazy about Proudinsky, and I have reservations similar to yours. I do however think his performance was considerably better than it looks on paper.

Originally Posted by mp3

Many here, especially boldruler said ieah pissed 500k away on the son of kipling. Already earned back 200k and the likely favorite in the 1m va derby. Spoke with those boys today and they just had a press conference with the ntra. They are flying down in a private jet, leaving at 6.30 after the va derby and are flying straight to canterbury as they have the odds on fav in the claiming crown. then flying home. they are clearly the hottest partnership out there. There website shows purses over 1m dollars already putting among the top 15 earners in the country going into a big weekend for them. I have bought one horse with them...holly time and he won in his first start for me a will run aug. 6 at the spa.....jeff

Too bad he didn't even make enough money to pay for the fuel in their jet.