"Hall/Fame" Santos; Charm; Veitch

[Kasept]

Hall of Fame inductees announced...

Jockeys: Jose Santos and John Sellers..

Trainers: Henry Forrest, Frank McCabe and John Veitch..

Horses: Mom's Command, Silver Charm and Swoon's Son..

[philcski]

Silver Charm!!!!!!!!

[cmorioles]

Good picks on the horses, at least the two I've heard of before.

[Danzig]

so glad that mom's command is finally getting in!!
congrats to all of them!!

[robfla]

edit. im wrong again

[philcski]

What does everyone think about Santos getting in?

He's won quite a few big races, so I guess he deserves it, but there's plenty of riders out there I'd prefer to him.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Originally Posted by philcski

What does everyone think about Santos getting in?

He's won quite a few big races, so I guess he deserves it, but there's plenty of riders out there I'd prefer to him.

He can thank Funny Cide - without him, he part of the long list ain't gettin' in anytime soon...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by philcski

What does everyone think about Santos getting in?

He's won quite a few big races, so I guess he deserves it, but there's plenty of riders out there I'd prefer to him.

i guess i'd need to see who's not, but should be....haven't a clue who has been 'on the bubble'...

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Good picks on the horses, at least the two I've heard of before.

Swoon's Son won 30 of 51 career starts and made over 970K back in the 1950's.

I've never seen any film of his races.

[Danzig]

from tbheritage:

Swoon's Son b.c. 1953
(The Doge - Swoon)
Sound and solid, winner under all conditions, he was U.S. Champion Handicap Horse of 1957 and Champion Sprinter in both 1957 and 1958 . Won 30 of his 50 plus races (10 times second) in 4 seasons of racing, major wins included Arlington Futurity, American Derby, Equipoise Mile (twice), Wright Memorial Stakes (twice), Balmoral Turf Handicap. At stud, he got Chris Evert (leading filly of 1974), Swoon's Song (stakes winner and dam of Swingtime, among other stakes winners), and 20 other stakes winners from 330 foals.

[Danzig]

in doing searching for swoon's son, i found this--is this right?????


To the man on the street, the most important race to win is the Kentucky Derby. Sports writers who don't know which end of the horse has teeth all become experts on the first Saturday in May, just as they become gymnastics experts every 4th years during the Olympics.

To the racing professional, there are more important races. One is the Belmont Stakes, because the 12-furlong distance is a quarter-mile longer than the Derby and requires that much more stamina (which is always a prime selling point in a stallion). Also, far more Belmont winners than Derby winners become divisional champions.

[Linny]

The Belmont used to be known as the "Test of a Champion" and was regarded as a stallion making race. This was a long time ago. Now, it's the 12 furlongs of anonymity.

Used to be that a top class horse would be asked to run 12f on dirt several times in his career. Now, unless they go to grass, none of the Belmont runners will ever see 12f again.

as for the inductees, Congrats to all. I'm especially pleased to see Veitch get it.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Linny

The Belmont used to be known as the "Test of a Champion" and was regarded as a stallion making race. This was a long time ago. Now, it's the 12 furlongs of anonymity.

Used to be that a top class horse would be asked to run 12f on dirt several times in his career. Now, unless they go to grass, none of the Belmont runners will ever see 12f again.

as for the inductees, Congrats to all. I'm especially pleased to see Veitch get it.

Well.....not always. Funny Cide, who ran third in the '03 Belmont, just competed in a 12f dirt race within the last couple of weeks.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Well.....not always. Funny Cide, who ran third in the '03 Belmont, just competed in a 12f dirt race within the last couple of weeks.

I think Tiago has a definate future in grass marathons.