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Old 05-24-2007, 11:14 PM
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Here are videos of the two excellent 2-year-old races between Street Cry and Flame Thrower. (Del Mar Futurity and Norfolk Stakes)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hj-URFpIz4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4S25uEggMSA

Street Cry, is of course the sire of Kentucky Derby winner Street Sense. He lost both races in narrow fashion to Flame Thrower...both in hanging fashion with an Alydar-esque action.

Both races yielded strong triple digit Beyer Speed figures....and are two of the most exciting 2yo races run this decade.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:23 PM
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Thanks for posting these. Two fine races.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:29 PM
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How much longer are we going to press this issue? At this point it has to be overkill. Last week, maybe. Now, definitely.
It wasn't really to press any issue. They were two great races---and I'm sure many people haven't seen them before.

But you are right---I wouldn't have posted a link to them if they had no connection with last week. Still....what does it hurt?
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:36 PM
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Good races, tx...i see no connection between these and recent races.

if anything, Flame Thrower has more in common with Curlin and Spectacular Bid in that all 3 horses outrun their pedigree. all 3 have weak families that may have or will adversely affect them at stud.
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Old 05-25-2007, 08:40 AM
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It wasn't really to press any issue.They were two great races---and I'm sure many people haven't seen them before.

But you are right---I wouldn't have posted a link to them if they had no connection with last week. Still....what does it hurt?


I am calling shenanigans on that in bold. While you were truthful in your second and third statements, your first was an outright bold face lie.

I feel you are a smart person, but also a bullheadedly cheeky person, who boundlessly tries to make his opinion known. If you stepped off your internal gas pedal 15%, I think more people, than already do, would respect you and your suasive assessments.
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Old 05-25-2007, 09:12 AM
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Either way, these are awesome links guys thanks.

I didn't really start following racing until 2003ish, and to be able to look back into the recent past is a treat.

Thanks for posting!

Someone should start a thread/page of all the video available online of great/important races.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:49 PM
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I'm busting your balls. But let me play Devil's Advocate, Flame Thrower was pretty good. At that point in their careers he was IMO better than Street Cry and seemed to come alive when met with a challenge. Isn't it possible he was just better?
They were both really awesome 2-year-olds. I guess Flame Thrower was the more precocious of the two---and certainly seemed to have more heart of the two.

However--Street Cry got a dream setup in the Del Mar Futurity...as FT was out there battling with three wickedly fast horses. He really shouldn't have lost that one.

They were certainly two very different kind of horses. Flame Thrower was actually just a $27K September yearling, and resold for $270K just about a half a year later at OBS April....after working the outright fastest 1/4 mile.

Street Cry was bred in Ireland---and his mother won the Group one Irish Oaks in Europe as a 3-year-old.
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Old 05-24-2007, 11:57 PM
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She did, but my point was Flame Thrower. Just looking at families over the generations I'd say all 3 have a weakness there. Overall, Curlin probably has a deeper family than Flame Thrower or Spectacular Bid, but still I'd be wary of him at stud until he proves himself.

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Old 05-25-2007, 12:08 AM
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Here was Street Cry's finest moment of glory.......winning the 2002 Dubai World Cup in blowout fashion...after getting a dream rail-skimming ride from Calvin Bo....oops...that was Jerry Bailey.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM86TrZH_to

If anyones curious, he followed this race up with a 6 1/2 length 118 Beyer romp in the Grade 1 Stephen Foster...and he wasn't even the favorite. Congaree was.

I don't know---I'm probably in the minority...but I see a lot of Street Cry in Street Sense when I watch the two of them on film. I steadfastly believe the sire was the better horse of the two--but, Street Sense can still get better, and prove me wrong about that.
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Old 05-25-2007, 12:14 AM
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No, I will not let it die!

I was trying to resist the last post---but I couldn't. Sorry man.
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