How much time will you spend capping the Derby

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by flifishri

As long as it takes to bet an online $10 x box on Curlin, Cowtown Cat and Scat Daddy!

Those are three of my tosses. . . Good luck. . .

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Those are three of my tosses. . . Good luck. . .

Toss Scat Daddy at your own risk.

[flifishri]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

Those are three of my tosses. . . Good luck. . .

Excellent! Hoping for more that will toss 'em! Ramp up the probables!

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by flifishri

Excellent! Hoping for more that will toss 'em! Ramp up the probables!

Unfortunately I don't think that's the case. . . Curlin will be the chalk and Scat Daddy will be the favored Pletcher horse- even though he's his third string (making Cowtown Cat his fourth string). . .

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by miraja2

I agree that it is a good idea to stick with what you are best at. If you aren't a Super player (I'm not either) it doesn't make sense to try to become one for one day. But I still think it makes sense to spend more time with the derby because the opportunity to make money is greater no matter how you play. Even if a person is just a "straight win" player, there is usually an opportunity to make a lot of money on this race because of the size of the field and the large number of idiots betting the race. I say, the more opportunity there is to make cash, the more time I am willing to devote to it.

I think it makes sense to take more time on this race than any other because of the opportunities to make more money. I also think this is a race where it pays to "stretch" a little bit in your usual betting strategies, again because of the opportunities to make a hell of a lot more money. If you're a "straight win" bettor, place a little money on the exacta or pick 3. The payoffs are HUGE.

I probably spend too much time on this race. But I also have a huge grin on my face while I'm doing it. It's a lot of fun just trying to figure out all the angles and trying to navigate through the b.s. And then there's all the arguing and gloating/sulking with my handicapping friends (mostly sulking).

[miraja2]

For me the real answer is....however long it takes for me to talk myself out of including the eventual winner in any of my exactas.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Unstable

I think it makes sense to take more time on this race than any other because of the opportunities to make more money. I also think this is a race where it pays to "stretch" a little bit in your usual betting strategies, again because of the opportunities to make a hell of a lot more money. If you're a "straight win" bettor, place a little money on the exacta or pick 3. The payoffs are HUGE.

I probably spend too much time on this race. But I also have a huge grin on my face while I'm doing it. It's a lot of fun just trying to figure out all the angles and trying to navigate through the b.s. And then there's all the arguing and gloating/sulking with my handicapping friends (mostly sulking).

See, I usually bet Pick 3s and 4s that include the Derby, but I've been thinking it over, and it really makes no sense to put so much effort into handicapping one race and very little effort (relatively) into 'capping races that will be equally important to the Pick 3 and 4 wagers. This year, I'll probably be playing inside the race only unless I see some can't miss play in one of the other races.

[dearheart54]

I've been handicapping since January 1. I'm still deciding if I will bet exotics or across the board. But, how I bet will depend largely on the arrival of my Illinois state tax refund in my checking account. The federal refund will come just in time for Breeders Cup.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by dearheart54

I've been handicapping since January 1. I'm still deciding if I will bet exotics or across the board. But, how I bet will depend largely on the arrival of my Illinois state tax refund in my checking account. The federal refund will come just in time for Breeders Cup.

I got mine in February... it's gone already. LOL

[Storm Cadet]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I got mine in February... it's gone already. LOL

Now why does that not surprise me?

Who did your taxes? Al Capones CPA?

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

Now why does that not surprise me?

Who did your taxes? Al Capones CPA?

I do them. Mine are easy, though... nothing to itemize anymore since I lease my house.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I've been handicapping this race since the day Nobiz was born.

Yup! Me too.
Hours?
Far too many.
Now, for the 2-8 spots...I'm doing a kind of "cow flop bingo" with my dog.
I put the names on the sidewalk in chalk. Whereever dear ol' pooch decides to drop his load of undigested lands, I write it down.
I'm paying attention!

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by miraja2

For me the real answer is....however long it takes for me to talk myself out of including the eventual winner in any of my exactas.

Sad,but true!

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I got mine in February... it's gone already. LOL

Wish I could say that. I procrastinate. I didn't get mine done until the first week of April. If I had known I was going to get a gigantor refund from the state and the federal, I would have sent it in January. Next year, I'll do that next year

[Storm Cadet]

Lucky you...no refund this year for me so I waited to the last day to file...they can wait for my $$$

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

Lucky you...no refund this year for me so I waited to the last day to file...they can wait for my $$$

Same thing I would have done.

[dearheart54]

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

Lucky you...no refund this year for me so I waited to the last day to file...they can wait for my $$$

I did that last year, like on the 13th or something. Had to actually save up to pay them off. Got an inherited IRA that really messed up my taxes. So I lowered my withholding status to zero, so the tax hit wouldn't be so bad. I found out I could still pay the bills and go to the track with less money in my paycheck, so I never changed it. Hence, the large refund this year. Would be nice if the Federal government could figure out how to work with less money and lower taxes Enough pontificating from me!

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

See, I usually bet Pick 3s and 4s that include the Derby, but I've been thinking it over, and it really makes no sense to put so much effort into handicapping one race and very little effort (relatively) into 'capping races that will be equally important to the Pick 3 and 4 wagers. This year, I'll probably be playing inside the race only unless I see some can't miss play in one of the other races.

That's the smart way to play it. Unless you have a lock in one of the races and can afford to spread in the others.

I have a friend who bets win/place and exactas, and is constantly telling me he would have had the huge trifecta. I tell him to bet the trifecta, and he tells me he doesn't bet those.

It only took me ten years to convince him to play the exactas... Maybe I'll have an easier time with the trifectas.

[Storm Cadet]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Same thing I would have done.

But I don't have the millions like you saved up

and YOU were mad about the cost of an airline ticket to Albany? Mere bag of shells for a big timer like you!

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet

But I don't have the millions like you saved up

and YOU were mad about the cost of an airline ticket to Albany? Mere bag of shells for a big timer like you!

My salary is ridiculously low (if you really want to know) and I actually used that refund money to pay off a credit card. Wish I could have blown it on something else, but the credit card was first. Drat! And don't worry... I'll be at Toga. Booked my flight.