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Old 04-12-2007, 04:59 PM
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[quote=Sightseek]I'd love to know Capital Play's plan to draw women to Aqueduct and in turn drawing men..have they actually been there?! QUOTE]

I believe they were going to hire them from SCORES
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:02 PM
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I'd love to know Capital Play's plan to draw women to Aqueduct and in turn drawing men..have they actually been there?! QUOTE]

I believe they were going to hire them from SCORES

I didn't read the thread, but I wanted to tell you that I loved Spend A Buck too! I think that is going to be my horse's show name at the "higher" rated show we are going to!
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:47 PM
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You guys make good points. Except when you talk about fixing your product. The majority of die hard players are going to play the horses no matter what the races are. The new blood, the people that they should be going after have no idea about things you guys are discussing. The industry as a whole has to make changes to draw this new blood to the sport. Slots and other table games are a good way to get them to the track. But there should be other ideas to get them to understand and eventually play the horses. Aqueduct should strictly be the slots and gaming faculity. It is good for nothing else. They race there at the worst time weather wise and the place is NOT the most family and kid friendly in the world. It would strictly be the place to gamble. Whether, it is the slots or live racing or simicasting. Maybe they could bring Jai Alai back and put it somewhere in Aqueduct. Maybe they could put a 5 star restauraunt in there to also draw people. I do not know about the hotel. Who would want to stay at a nice hotel that is 100 yards away from one of the busiest airports in the world. I also personally think night racing is a great idea and should be explored. Other little things that could be done at other tracks are, make the time in between races shorter. Make trainers and jockeys more accessable. At Saratoga the jockeys walk right through the crowd to get back to the jocks room. That blew my mind. To see and interact with guys like Bailey, JV, Prado is like having Derek Jeter walk past my seat to get back to the dugout. Keep giving away tons of stuff. People love free things. Make sure there are things for kids to do, otherwise parents are going to take them to the zoo and the last time I checked you can't bet an exacta using 2 giraffes and an elephant!
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Old 04-12-2007, 12:59 PM
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I'm certainly not an Authority, but sure seems like the structure of simulcast revenues is the real elephant in the room. To me, the tracks get stuck with all the heavy lifting (facilities maintenance, production of racing product) and off track outlets get big cut of handle for doing very little.

I don't understand why NYRA has not taken a seriously aggressive approach to internet wagering. I was disturbed to see them advertising Internet wagering on the starting gate with a PHONE NUMBER and no web address. Are they that clueless?

I would give the Slots crowd what they want, take our share and leave them be. They are generally not horse players. IMO a Sportsbook Atmosphere for horse players with video poker and a few slots are about as good as you are going to get as far as integrating the two.

I really love NY racing and hope things improve...
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:00 PM
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I'm certainly not an Authority, but sure seems like the structure of simulcast revenues is the real elephant in the room. To me, the tracks get stuck with all the heavy lifting (facilities maintenance, production of racing product) and off track outlets get big cut of handle for doing very little.

I don't understand why NYRA has not taken a seriously aggressive approach to internet wagering. I was disturbed to see them advertising Internet wagering on the starting gate with a PHONE NUMBER and no web address. Are they that clueless?

I would give the Slots crowd what they want, take our share and leave them be. They are generally not horse players. IMO a Sportsbook Atmosphere for horse players with video poker and a few slots are about as good as you are going to get as far as integrating the two.

I really love NY racing and hope things improve...
ha, ha! I pointed that out the other day.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:22 PM
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I think Aqueduct gets a bad rap as well, it is not that bad, especially in the dining room. Wynn's ideas are ridiculous and are all suited to the casino portion, not racing. Clearly he wants a parking garage at Belmont to build on the existing parking lots, not because it is a long walk. Heck, the parking lot is empty most days anyway. I have no problem with parking at Belmont, usually I park on the opposite side of Hempstead Turnpike and get in and out very quickly. To me OTB has had a huge hand in creating small crowds, why go to the track when you can go locally to bet? Getting on-track attendance is not the most important issue, it is attracting more people to the game. I can't understand why NYRA or OTB has not had internet wagering, and if it has been added, than their advertising sucks. Also, Belmont is accesible from Manhattan by the LIRR, so one does not need to have a car. Shopping facilities have and will work anywhere in the Queens area, in fact, the big problem would be the traffic on the Belt parkway as JFK already makes that area bad enough.
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Old 04-12-2007, 01:25 PM
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Let me try to understand this.Aqueduct where Linden and Rockaway boulevard meet,a place where they sold off half the parking lot where Home Depot stands,and 3 blocks away you have Liberty avenue and the elevated train and most of the business around there are bodegas,hub cap and body and fender shops,annndd then on the other side you have a residential area not too mention the already stated JFK airport,this is where they want to do this.I think they should look elsewhere.
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