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Old 04-03-2007, 07:41 PM
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If I remember correctly he was taken very wide coming into the stretch by the horse that came down. Then he shifted in pretty bad on his own midstretch. Then came back to run up the track in the San Rafael or Bob Lewis, whatever race Great hunter won.
i dont think it was the race that great hunter won, but im not sure, i think ravel won it though, he ran in it as a maiden and got pulled up or just ran last
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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I've only glanced through the race but he seems about 7th or 8th best with a cursory look.
really, i thought he could win lol
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:42 PM
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If I remember correctly he was taken very wide coming into the stretch by the horse that came down. Then he shifted in pretty bad on his own midstretch. Then came back to run up the track in the San Rafael or Bob Lewis, whatever race Great hunter won.

Thanks. I'll watch the maiden race again later.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:43 PM
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That is some spot Tagg found for Funny Cide's return. It would be nice to at least occasionally see this poor horse in a spot where his best efforts would make him at least competitive. He's still a pretty good horse, even off last year, and making his debut in this spot is baffling to say the least. I'm sure they would have written a race for him in NY.

It's hard for me to blame Tagg for the foolish spots this horse continually races in, as he's just too good a trainer to be this consistently wrong, but whomever is to blame should be ashamed of themselves. How about a confidence booster?
Boy is the bloom ever off the Sackatoga rose?
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:44 PM
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Thanks. I'll watch the maiden race again later.
can you tell me the date of that ? i want to watch it but i have no clue when it was
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:44 PM
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really, i thought he could win lol
Honestly, unless he freaks on polytrack, he has very little chance.

I was very tired of hearing all the BS about Funny Cide, and people claiming he was much better than he was, but now I find myself rooting for him. The poor horse is always in seemingly over his head, and if you look at his pps for last year he performed consistantly well throughout the year. I just wish he was spotted better.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:44 PM
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I'm not sold on Time Squared at all and he may be one of those money burner types. What excuse did he have in his second start? Didn't the post-DQ winner take a tour of the grandstand in midstretch?

Yeah, Spankey Come Home pulled a "Broad Brush" on that race. A VERY oddly run race. To be honest, I just don't see what the hooplah is around this horse. Sure, he should win, but this is the exact type of horse that I play against regularly: an overbet closer. Haven't seen the odds yet, but I can see a few horses in here that will offer pick 3 value as mostly all i play are pick 3's and 4's.

the 4,7,8, and 12 come to mind
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:45 PM
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can you tell me the date of that ? i want to watch it but i have no clue when it was

January 21st, 6th at Santa Anita.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:47 PM
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can you tell me the date of that ? i want to watch it but i have no clue when it was
21 jan race 6 SA
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:47 PM
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Yeah, Spankey Come Home pulled a "Broad Brush" on that race. A VERY oddly run race. To be honest, I just don't see what the hooplah is around this horse. Sure, he should win, but this is the exact type of horse that I play against regularly: an overbet closer. Haven't seen the odds yet, but I can see a few horses in here that will offer pick 3 value as mostly all i play are pick 3's and 4's.

the 4,7,8, and 12 come to mind

I was going to list that same foursome. Plus even the rail may not be hopeless.

Perhaps polytrack is kinder to laggards like this horse but I agree with your general philosphy on this kind of horse.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:48 PM
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January 21st, 6th at Santa Anita.
thank you, and about funny cide, i think me thinking he can win, is also more of my heart wanting him to win.... alot more then me actually thinking he can get it done, but i trully do belive he could have a few years of solid run in him if they can get his confidence back
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:51 PM
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thank you, and about funny cide, i think me thinking he can win, is also more of my heart wanting him to win.... alot more then me actually thinking he can get it done, but i trully do belive he could have a few years of solid run in him if they can get his confidence back

Why don't you download the pps and take an actual look at the race before forming any opinion.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:54 PM
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Why don't you download the pps and take an actual look at the race before forming any opinion.
i did look at them earlier, and i thought he was a standout, but i wouldnt bet him.......................... i wouldnt discuss a race without looking
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:56 PM
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i did look at them earlier, and i thought he was a standout, but i wouldnt bet him.......................... i wouldnt discuss a race without looking

I'm not trying to give you a hard time at all but I just figured since you didn't know the date of Time Squared's maiden race that you didn't have the pps.
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:57 PM
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I'm not trying to give you a hard time at all but I just figured since you didn't know the date of Time Squared's maiden race that you didn't have the pps.
i know, im lazy sorry
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:58 PM
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Old 04-03-2007, 07:58 PM
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what about the " Cental Bank " Transylvania Stakes? On sheer numbers Sedgefield lays over, but can he run well on such a short rest? Are they running him too much? The Johanessburg colt seems to be improving. Sheppard's Dynaformer colt ran a decent race, can he improve enough second start? and Corbrador seems to be coming into his own.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:00 PM
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what about the " Cental Bank " Transylvania Stakes? On sheer numbers Sedgefield lays over, but can he run well on such a short rest? Are they running him too much? The Johanessburg colt seems to be improving. Sheppard's Dynaformer colt ran a decent race, can he improve enough second start? and Corbrador seems to be coming into his own.
i like shappards horse a little, i dont have a strong opinion on that race yet.
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Old 04-03-2007, 08:04 PM
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two horse race, Marcavelly and Sedgefield, unless the import can run.....I guess Cobrador is somewhat interesting.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:41 AM
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Thank you.

Hopefully, many will be able to listen, an added benefit to DRFPlus would be nice.

And good luck with the show and the contest!
not to step on Andy's toes but when I looked at the DRF online this morning they have an advertisement for the show...says coming friday morning...so it would appear that it will be available to DRF plus members....at least that is how I read it.
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