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06-22-2006, 11:02 PM
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Yea,it is not the race I was thinking I might see from him,but he beat stakes type horses fairly easily(although having to be whipped to do it.)He will have to be better than that,but it did seem as if he was not very cranked up by the trainer just yet.Very difficult to say just where this horse fits in as far as the 3 year olds go this year. He sure didn't look like a 2 turn horse to me,but his breeding says he is(and his trainer thinks he is.) If they wanted to win without blowing his wad,then mission accomplished.
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06-23-2006, 09:10 AM
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I tend to agree w/Scuds here. Racketeer's last was on turf and his race before that was an experiment trying to rate so on a good day, he's only 2 1/2 behind Point Determined and AP Warrior so he's a decent 3YO. Same w/Flashy Bull. On paper there was very little speed in the race so it was going to be difficult to make up any ground. I don't know what some people on here were expecting but I don't understand the criticism.....I guess they were expecting a monster win margin ridden out. Get a grip. It was his first time going long, his second career race, and once Prado got him straightened out he leveled out pretty good in the final sixteenth. This is a very good horse.
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06-23-2006, 11:40 PM
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Well, Dicksie, not everybody can be as sharp as you.
By the way...Argentina is a money burner ( if you had the $5 you could have bought a Racing Form and seen that ) and Latent Heat will be 2:5. Awfully kind of you to tout a 2:5 shot. Now THAT takes real genius.
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06-24-2006, 03:51 PM
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06-22-2006, 08:17 PM
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He's a nice colt....he wasn't having the best time of things before the race yet he still destroyed two decent 3-year-olds that had a lot more experience than him.....I loved this colt's maiden win and I truly believe he is a good horse....Do I think he can be Bernardini or Discreet Cat-type material?...No, but he is nice...I just don't care for his connections...John Ward usually doesn't get it all out of his horses...
...He can impact the late summer 3-year-old races...
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06-22-2006, 09:37 PM
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He had a perfect trip and was ridden hard to beat two OK, but decidedly lesser, 3YOs.
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06-23-2006, 10:28 AM
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...Contrary to what you may believe, Flashy Bull (only a couple lengths from winning the FOY) and Racketeer (only a couple of lengths behind California's best earlier this year) aren't exactly mules....just because they aren't Derby-caliber contenders doesn't mean that they are walk-overs... For those of you who are interested and believe in beyer speed figs (which I don't necessarily do), Minister' Bid got a 101 for yesterday's effort - which is ot horrible for a colt making his second lifetime start.....AND, he'll only improve around two-turns.. ....For blackthroatedwind to dub yesterday's performance as unimpressive, that is a horrible analysis....this horse can run
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06-23-2006, 10:50 AM
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I will once again repeat, I believe yesterday's win was unimpressive, especially in relation to the hype this horse has generated. I realize you have already developed a built in excuse for his future failures ( John Ward being, according to you, a bad trainer ) but I would like to know your prediction for the future.....good or bad? I believe suggesting he will improve around two turns, as you did, is a " horrible analysis " ( you don't mind if I borrow that one from you...do you? ). This is a closing sprinter. Perhaps if they don't ruin him before that he will do OK in this Fall's Jerome. By the way, horses go into drives for a variety of reasons, and I didn't give one in the case of Racketeer, but merely pointed out that he was in one very early in the race. And, oh yeah, The Fountain of Youth was a HORRIBLE race this year and I suggest you take a good look at the subsequent performances by the entrants in that race. Last edited by blackthroatedwind : 06-23-2006 at 10:52 AM.
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