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Old 06-22-2006, 02:50 PM
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I think it looks like a good betting race. Price horses I think are live include Outperformance, Lewis Michael, & Can't Beat It. Outperformance may be my prime play (I hope he handles the distance) with good late pace figures.
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:28 PM
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Seattle PLEASE try and learn something about the business before you make statements like this. The race hasn't met the criteria yet for number of consecutive years that it has to be run in order to go in front of the stakes committee. Incredible that you could speak so boldly without having any idea(obviously) how races actually attain graded status.

do you just enjoy doing this? my life already stinks I dont need to be reminded of other things I **** up in. Im more than well informed in that department
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:48 PM
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do you just enjoy doing this? my life already stinks I dont need to be reminded of other things I **** up in. Im more than well informed in that department
Your life does not stink. YOu are doing better in life than anytime in the last three years. You just aren't mature enough yet to realize that getting a job, continuing to hold it, losing weight, etc has made your folks real proud and should make you proud as well. If you would get your head out of your ass about this girl who tossed you 4 years ago, you would realize this.
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:54 PM
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I think its a very entertaining bunch of horses offering tremendous wagering value. You have a horse like Showing Up, who is either going to flop or win going away, as the favorite. You have the consistent but less than brilliant Stream Cat who will take tons of money for Frenchy. I am throwing both of these horses out.

Should be a nice little race. Not sure why anybody would expect a "Million Dollar" type field.
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Old 06-22-2006, 03:56 PM
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I think its a very entertaining bunch of horses offering tremendous wagering value. You have a horse like Showing Up, who is either going to flop or win going away, as the favorite. You have the consistent but less than brilliant Stream Cat who will take tons of money for Frenchy. I am throwing both of these horses out.

Should be a nice little race. Not sure why anybody would expect a "Million Dollar" type field.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:18 AM
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I think its a very entertaining bunch of horses offering tremendous wagering value. You have a horse like Showing Up, who is either going to flop or win going away, as the favorite. You have the consistent but less than brilliant Stream Cat who will take tons of money for Frenchy. I am throwing both of these horses out.

Should be a nice little race. Not sure why anybody would expect a "Million Dollar" type field.
I thought that Stream Cat was the m/l fave? Do you think that will change? I hope not...
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:00 PM
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do you just enjoy doing this? my life already stinks I dont need to be reminded of other things I **** up in. Im more than well informed in that department
Your point wasn't that bad. The fact is that on July 15 they basically have the identical race, same purse, 1/16 mile longer, 3yr olds, and it is a Grade II. The same horses probably will Show Up. Yes Show Up. There is your winner.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:07 PM
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Your point wasn't that bad. The fact is that on July 15 they basically have the identical race, same purse, 1/16 mile longer, 3yr olds, and it is a Grade II. The same horses probably will Show Up. Yes Show Up. There is your winner.
The Virginia Derby has been run for more years, so it is eligible for grading.

You must be hoping that Showing Up takes after his dad, because his mum's side hasn't produced many horses that have shown much liking for the green stuff. Turf records like x/0-0-0 in my APR.
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Old 06-22-2006, 04:23 PM
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The Virginia Derby has been run for more years, so it is eligible for grading.

You must be hoping that Showing Up takes after his dad, because his mum's side hasn't produced many horses that have shown much liking for the green stuff. Turf records like x/0-0-0 in my APR.
I am well aware of how they grade races, but we shouldn't attack guys who don't know everything.

Showing Up loves the turf. I guess he does take after his dad. He actually has the same demeanor as Strategic Mission. SM was a pretty nice turf horse. His bottom isn't exactly garbage. He is out of a TV Commercial mare. Last I checked TV Commercial finished 3rd in the KY Derby. In my opinion, this race will not be competitive. He has way too much class and is much faster than the other horses in this race.
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Old 06-23-2006, 10:05 PM
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Should be a good betting race tomorrow, I'll take a stand against Showing Up, until he runs a race on Turf, I don't care how he's training....

As a side topic, I think one of the worst mistakes the commi tte made was making the Clark Handicap a Grade 1 this year, most of the G1 quality routers have hung it up by that time of the year, maybe they'll stay in training a little longer and try to get a G1, but I would rather see it go to the Arkansas Derby, strip the Blue Grass of any graded stature as well, since it's going to poly, there should be no graded racing on poly track.
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Old 06-23-2006, 08:47 PM
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Hey you Kitten's Joy fans - Lewis Michael is out of a half-sister to KJ, and she was a turf SW at the listed level, too. By Rahy, looks good to me.
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Old 06-23-2006, 09:26 PM
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well, Tagg says Showing Up is training like a tiger on turf and that's why they are there.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:44 PM
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WOW--I was totally wrong on Showing Up. What a great performance. I do apologize to Showing Up. Very very nice.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:50 PM
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BIG future ahead for that one.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:52 PM
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Give me a lil more detail please. This lock came in for me.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:54 PM
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Give me a lil more detail please. This lock came in for me.
Superstar in the making. Just like Barbaro.
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Old 06-24-2006, 04:55 PM
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well fantastic...i've been waiting for this race since Minister Bid.
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