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Old 03-11-2007, 07:59 PM
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So now we've had Corinthian win on 3 weeks rest, Einstein win on 2 weeks rest, and Miss Shop win on 1 week rest. Guess we can toss all that BS the trainers are spewing about not being able to bring back stakes horses without at least 5 weeks in between. I don't ever want to hear 4 weeks referred to as short rest again.
Howard's Creek won today at TP. It was his 4th race in 21 days. Of course he was beating a rotten 7500 NW2 group.
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Old 03-11-2007, 09:19 PM
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So now we've had Corinthian win on 3 weeks rest, Einstein win on 2 weeks rest, and Miss Shop win on 1 week rest. Guess we can toss all that BS the trainers are spewing about not being able to bring back stakes horses without at least 5 weeks in between. I don't ever want to hear 4 weeks referred to as short rest again.

Depends on the horse, they are all diffirent.
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Old 03-11-2007, 09:33 PM
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Depends on the horse, they are all diffirent.
I know there are some. Ravel for instance is one that I actually believe can't come back quick after a race. I just don't buy these ridiculous theories given by trainers and horseplayers that horses can't come back without less than five weeks rest or else they will bounce. Or the idea that horses aren't capable of running more often than every 5 to 6 weeks in Stakes company. Matz referred to four weeks as short rest the other day and my head almost exploded. As people have cited above, it wasn't that long ago that top horses were being asked to run back quick. Now everyone is too afraid of getting their horse beat that they try to get them the optimal rest instead of just racing the horse. For the few that might come back quick and run poorly how many are not reaching their full potential because they could actually improve by racing more often like horses of the past did?
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Old 03-12-2007, 03:34 AM
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believe me guys i wanna see the best horses race often too but it just cant happen the way some here appear to want it to! horses are living breathing beings just like us and after running a huge effort sometimes they need more time to recuperate! ive learned so much since working in the barn and ive saw this first hand and am actually able to tell alotta the time now just how much a race has taken outta 1 of our horses by visually observing. for example we had a horse come off a year break, well he ran his eyeballs out first time back at turfway and he was layed out afterwards and was fine physically in the sense with no injury but again was just flat out exhausted for awhile and it took him several more days than it normally would for a horse to return to the track after a race. also some here may not realize especially with these stake horses just how much the shipping takes outta the horse as well
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Old 03-13-2007, 04:24 PM
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believe me guys i wanna see the best horses race often too but it just cant happen the way some here appear to want it to! horses are living breathing beings just like us and after running a huge effort sometimes they need more time to recuperate! ive learned so much since working in the barn and ive saw this first hand and am actually able to tell alotta the time now just how much a race has taken outta 1 of our horses by visually observing. for example we had a horse come off a year break, well he ran his eyeballs out first time back at turfway and he was layed out afterwards and was fine physically in the sense with no injury but again was just flat out exhausted for awhile and it took him several more days than it normally would for a horse to return to the track after a race. also some here may not realize especially with these stake horses just how much the shipping takes outta the horse as well
well back they shipped and not by air but by train or truck. and they ran quite well back then. to me it is easlier to fly then travel by land.
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