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ateamstupid · #**241** 05-13-2010, 08:12 PM

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I know he takes a lot of heat but Doc did a pretty darn good job this series. Or maybe he just did an Okay job and Brown is just that bad.

Nope, Doc is still a moron. We have as high as a 10-point lead and he waits until the Cavs are on an 8-0 run to pull within one to rest Rondo. Good time to go without the best player in the series Doc.

#**242** 05-13-2010, 08:25 PM

Looking good for the C's. Mo can't carry those bums.

#**243** 05-13-2010, 08:34 PM

2nd half

Celts pick em -115
230/200

docicu3 · #**244** 05-13-2010, 10:10 PM

Very few moments in sports have been as satisfying as this......

Celts didn't beat Cleveland. They destroyed their soul. LeBron is the king of the regular season. Too bad championships are not won in the regular season.

ateamstupid · #**245** 05-13-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

Very few moments in sports have been as satisfying as this......

Celts didn't beat Cleveland. They destroyed their soul. LeBron is the king of the regular season. Too bad championships are not won in the regular season.

Echoed my feelings exactly. I'm sure everyone's still gonna pick the Magic, but let's not forget that everyone assumed Cleveland would stampede Orlando last season after sweeping through the first two rounds.

docicu3 · #**246** 05-13-2010, 10:42 PM

So what stops LJ from being signed by Boston in the off season?

ateamstupid · #**247** 05-13-2010, 10:46 PM

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So what stops LJ from being signed by Boston in the off season?

Complete and utter lack of cap flexibility? You're serious?

#**248** 05-13-2010, 11:38 PM

9 turnovers. What a buster.

The Cavs need to let him go and pursue a proven winner...D. Wade. Then beat the punk b.itches ass in the playoffs.

#**249** 05-13-2010, 11:46 PM

Say what you want about Skip but at least he takes a f.ucking stand.

I'm so god-damned sick of the LeBron love in the sports media I can puke. If LeBron stays and never wins a championship for Cleveland they should take the above image and make a statue out of it and put it in front of his locker.

horseofcourse · #**250** 05-14-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

Very few moments in sports have been as satisfying as this......

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True that. Only a few come to my mind. Commendable winning the Belmont Stakes is one. Plus a couple of Kobayashi's hot dog eating wins I think outdid it satisfaction wise. I'm at a loss after those however. So you may be on to something.

ateamstupid · #**251** 05-14-2010, 04:51 AM

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True that. Only a few come to my mind. Commendable winning the Belmont Stakes is one. Plus a couple of Kobayashi's hot dog eating wins I think outdid it satisfaction wise. I'm at a loss after those however. So you may be on to something.

Dude I feel your pain but you can't begrudge Celtic fans for enjoying this.

horseofcourse · #**252** 05-14-2010, 05:40 AM

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Dude I feel your pain but you can't begrudge Celtic fans for enjoying this.

Oh no, I don't begrudge Celtic fans anything. Cleveland fans deep down really love all things Boston sports.

docicu3 · #**253** 05-14-2010, 05:48 AM

"To say LeBron's game is not polished is pretty far out there."....

Guilty of being "pretty far out there"....

Talented and polished are completely different skill sets. James doesn't make anyone on the Cavs better than the talents they already possess. Rhondo completely outplayed James in the series while showing that his game is becoming more versatile or polished because his shot is becoming more dependable.

James makes his team uncomfortable when his shot isn't falling. AJ has never looked worse trying to guard KG while trying to figure out when he can push his own offense.

All I kept reading was how James and his deep talented bench was going to abuse Boston. Celts would be lucky to win a game. Seems the Celts were "lucky" 4 out of the 6 games played.

horseofcourse · #**254** 05-14-2010, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

"To say LeBron's game is not polished is pretty far out there."....

Guilty of being "pretty far out there"....

Talented and polished are completely different skill sets. James doesn't make anyone on the Cavs better than the talents they already possess. Rhondo completely outplayed James in the series while showing that his game is becoming more versatile or polished because his shot is becoming more dependable.

James makes his team uncomfortable when his shot isn't falling. AJ has never looked worse trying to guard KG while trying to figure out when he can push his own offense.

All I kept reading was how James and his deep talented bench was going to abuse Boston. Celts would be lucky to win a game. Seems the Celts were "lucky" 4 out of the 6 games played.

I'm really sorry. I was very wrong on all things about LeBron James. I apologize. His jersey says "Cleveland". I want him to succeed while wearing that jersey. Why is that so bad? Warts and all his 7 years in Cleveland were the 7 best years consecutively in franchise history. They won playoff series' in 5 consecutive years....yes, FIVE. That may not sound like much to a fan of the god-like Boston Celtics but pre-LeBron the greatest franchise streak was 2 years. It turns out he is indeed not God. I'm not sure if I ever claimed that, but he single-handedly made one of the worst franchises in professional sports history relevant.

That is something. I'll defend anything I guess. Three years ago CC Sabathia was reviled in Cleveland because he came up woefully short in the postseason. He was the Cy Young winner but got outpitched by Beckett in game 1 and game 5 in the ALCS. Game 5 a potential clincher at home. He choked, I guess. Sound familiar? Next year traded and single-handedly pitched a woeful Brewer organization into the playoffs. Stunk in postseason yet again. Next year he is a champion and suddenly able to pitch in postseason. What happened?

I can't honestly defend what happened this series. I will state this. They won 42 playoff games in his time here.....7 years. The first 34 years of the franchise they won 28 playoff games total. I can defend that. He's done remarkable things on the court for this franchise. You make good points in your post...but to state Jamison couldn't play defense on Garnett because LeBron's jump shot wasn't falling does seem a bit out there too. So even in your bashings of him, you actually feed the myth of him. You feel his powers are so, so great, his jump shot success actually affects defensive abilities of his teammates.

( I also find it hilarious how no Boston fan on here has talked about the refs one single time after the last 3 games. How is that even possible? They suddenly found their groove or something? I talked about them facetiously a bit but nothing from Boston fans. Odd. Not odd, actually, just complete pansies. After game one it was all refs, after games 4, 5, and 6, it was nothing about the refs. Boston Celtic fans are complete and total pansies of the highest order. That you can take to the bank)

dalakhani · #**255** 05-14-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

"To say LeBron's game is not polished is pretty far out there."....

Guilty of being "pretty far out there"....

Talented and polished are completely different skill sets. James doesn't make anyone on the Cavs better than the talents they already possess. Rhondo completely outplayed James in the series while showing that his game is becoming more versatile or polished because his shot is becoming more dependable.

James makes his team uncomfortable when his shot isn't falling. AJ has never looked worse trying to guard KG while trying to figure out when he can push his own offense.

All I kept reading was how James and his deep talented bench was going to abuse Boston. Celts would be lucky to win a game. Seems the Celts were "lucky" 4 out of the 6 games played.

I do find it curious that Lebron was somehow supposed to make Jamison a better defender. Jamison is perhaps the worst defender in the league and that is putting it mildly. Would any player in NBA history save Bill Russell or Akeem in his better days have made him look any better?

Lebron could have played better last night and over the series. I have never seen him look worse over a course of a series but I think a good measure of credit has to go to Boston's defense and yes Joey, Doc's gameplan in stopping him. He was certainly rattled and the 9 turnovers were crushing.

Suddenly, people like that idiot Skip Bayless (the biggest idiot in all of sports media) are feeling somehow vindicated in whatever cheap swipes they took at him. The guy had a triple ****ing double. He had 19 rebounds. Is it his fault Jamison shoots 2-10 and can't guard the towel boy? The media was crying after the last game that he wasn't assertive enough and now he doesn't make his teammates better. Does Kobe Bryant "make his teammates better"? Give me a break. Kobe won last year because he is a great player and he had a good team around him not to mention a competent coach.

To the victor goes the spoils and Boston won. Their fans surely have the right to gloat especially after some of the comments that were made in this thread. No doubt, I would be doing the same thing. At the same time, this kid is getting killed because his team lost to an underrated and game champion. Its almost as if Boston fans are more excited about Lebron not succeeding than about their own team's accomplishment.

By the way, Boston starters Rondo, Allen and Pierce were a combined 6-24 outside of the paint last night. Pierce and Allen, the guys the superior Rondo was "making better", shot a combined 6-21 from the floor as a whole.

Congrats to Boston and its fans. They played an outstanding series and last night was an incredible defensive effort.

horseofcourse · #**256** 05-14-2010, 07:06 AM

Well, hopefully LeBron will leave so Varajao can become the 20 and 10 man he should be if that dang LeBron wasn't holding him back so much. You can tell watching his shooting form and ball handling skills what he could be if LeBron wasn't there.

Antitrust32 · #**257** 05-14-2010, 07:15 AM

Varajao sucks so bad. the cavs could have won last night if that guy hadnt played. he's terrible and his hair sucks too. (uh oh I think NEbrady might get mad at me now)

Also Lebron just didnt have any "swag". He looked lost, definately wasnt dominant no matter what the stats say.

I'll take Orlando in 6 in the next series.. and Orlando over the Suns in the Championship.

horseofcourse · #**258** 05-14-2010, 07:20 AM

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Varajao sucks so bad. the cavs could have won last night if that guy hadnt played. he's terrible and his hair sucks too. (uh oh I think NEbrady might get mad at me now)

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No. He is the one guy on the team who plays hard every single second he's on the floor. He is what he is. He struggled the whole series, but the whole team did. I should probably blame the refs for that...I know the whole Boston fan contingent on this board would, but I'm pretty sure it was just Boston who played better which made the whole team struggle. I should be happy I think. Orlando would have planted Cleveland like a potato.

Antitrust32 · #**259** 05-14-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by horseofcourse

No. He is the one guy on the team who plays hard every single second he's on the floor. He is what he is. He struggled the whole series, but the whole team did. I should probably blame the refs for that...I know the whole Boston fan contingent on this board would, but I'm pretty sure it was just Boston who played better which made the whole team struggle. I should be happy I think. Orlando would have planted Cleveland like a potato.

I will give you that.. he's the only one who really hustled non stop.. Mo did some of that too. But his effort hurt the team IMO.. He rushed, the threw up bad shot after bad shot after bad shot.. every time trying to draw a foul which he wouldnt get.. then he'd cry to the ref's. didnt even seem to look to pass. His hustle was commendable, his play sucked.

Cannon Shell · #**260** 05-14-2010, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3

"To say LeBron's game is not polished is pretty far out there."....

Guilty of being "pretty far out there"....

Talented and polished are completely different skill sets. James doesn't make anyone on the Cavs better than the talents they already possess. Rhondo completely outplayed James in the series while showing that his game is becoming more versatile or polished because his shot is becoming more dependable.

James makes his team uncomfortable when his shot isn't falling. AJ has never looked worse trying to guard KG while trying to figure out when he can push his own offense.

All I kept reading was how James and his deep talented bench was going to abuse Boston. Celts would be lucky to win a game. Seems the Celts were "lucky" 4 out of the 6 games played.

The Celtics winning doesnt make most of this nonsense true. Boston played much better than they have in 2 years. Not one player on Cleveland had a good series. It is really not that complicated.