shaq to the Cavs

Actually I made the site after I noticed you were stalking me. And giving my user name and password to the school board webmaster guy is a savvy move considering I'm going to be banned for that nasty PM that I sent daring you to threaten me again.

Serious business.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Actually I made the site after I noticed you were stalking me. And giving my user name and password to the school board webmaster guy is a savvy move considering I'm going to be banned for that nasty PM that I sent daring you to threaten me again.

Serious business.

First of all as you clearly know I DID NOT THREATEN you.
Secondly, even if I had done anything wrong to you personally,
it is from a private residence. But that really does not matter in
this case.

And lastly. If you somehow managed to contort and lie and ever
actually made me take time to have to deal with your lies. Well, you
better have a lawyer ready. Apparently you must have encountered
some trouble before. I would think you would have learned. Either
that or you enjoy conflict.

Originally Posted by pgardn

First of all as you clearly know I DID NOT THREATEN you.
Secondly, even if I had done anything wrong to you personally,
it is from a private residence. But that really does not matter in
this case.

And lastly. If you somehow managed to contort and lie and ever
actually made me take time to have to deal with your lies. Well, you
better have a lawyer ready. Apparently you must have encountered
some trouble before. I would think you would have learned. Either
that or you enjoy conflict.

First of all, I am behind 348 proxies and you'll never find me. Not even Bill Gates with the power of Steve Jobs' dead liver juice could garner enough energy to find me.

So again I'd advise you not to threaten me, tard.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

First of all, I am behind 348 proxies and you'll never find me. Not even Bill Gates with the power of Steve Jobs' dead liver juice could garner enough energy to find me.

So again I'd advise you not to threaten me, tard.

Only the Shadow knows.
Scary stuff Coach.

Why on God's green earth would I want to find you?
Who the hell IS after you?
Have you committed a crime or something?

The paranoia is unbelievable.

How did I threaten you? How tell me how... I want to know
exactly what I did to drive you into a state of paranoia?
Because I dont want to drive you nuts guy, but you
do need some help.

[dalakhani]

you guys should listen to this song and think of each other:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFBZqpPKlP8

Originally Posted by pgardn

Only the Shadow knows.
Scary stuff Coach.

Why on God's green earth would I want to find you?
Who the hell IS after you?
Have you committed a crime or something?

The paranoia is unbelievable.

How did I threaten you? How tell me how... I want to know
exactly what I did to drive you into a state of paranoia?
Because I dont want to drive you nuts guy, but you
do need some help.

Oh how novel. The guy who is holding a grudge over me is telling moi that I need help.

Do you want me to go through the threads the last few months where you've butted in on conversations I've had with others just to try and troll me into responding to you? We can compare them to the times where I've replied to you initially.

The numbers will be astonishing.

You = obsessed.

Good God.

I hope they dont get you tonight.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Gordon is a defensive liability but i dont think that is so much the case with CV. Coleman was a head case. CV might be just young. The 40 million thing is deceptive because it works out to a reasonable yearly cap hit for a guy that will be in your 8 man rotation for sure. A very good signing in my opinion any way you cut it.

Giving Gordon that kind of money could come back to hurt especially if you don't know what you are doing with Hamilton. That will be a tough contract to get rid of. The backcourt situation is interesting to say the least.

http://www.bucksketball.com/?p=285

Interesting observations from someone who appears to have actually watched the Bucks last year

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.bucksketball.com/?p=285

Interesting observations from someone who appears to have actually watched the Bucks last year

Maybe just a little sour grapes by a bucks fan, or at least my assumption is that he is a bucks fan considering his moniker is "bucksketball". Can you imagine if Scuds were given a blog to write about Mark Texiera?

Regardless, I have no problem with what he said. Ive watched CV play plenty of times. Cleveland wanted him but they couldnt give him more than the mid level exception.

Detroit had to beat that. They had to beat the mid level exception to convince him to play for a non contender. So what did Detroit get?

If they staggered the contract, 6-7-8-9-10, The hit in the first two years will be negligible for a 24 year old low post player that can score and rebound. A majority of his problems are mental not physical. He has ability and no one denies it...and he's not an a.s.s. If he plays well, youve got a low post starter for bargain dollars by NBA standards. If he doesnt improve, then its still not a bad deal until year four and by year five you can trade the expiring contract.

The gordon deal might have been a reach. I dont like undersized two guards unless you have a big combo guard to pair him with. For that kind of money, they are betting on him being a stud. This is hit or miss.

[King Glorious]

Posting an article by someone that shares the same opinion as you do doesn't automatically make you or them any more right than the person who's opinion you disagree with. I've never understood the purpose for doing that.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Posting an article by someone that shares the same opinion as you do doesn't automatically make you or them any more right than the person who's opinion you disagree with. I've never understood the purpose for doing that.

No one said that they were right or wrong but in case you hadn't noticed there isn't a whole lot of objective Milwaukee Bucks observations out there. Just because you cant find anyone that agrees with you about the Clippers purge of Crap Randolph doesnt mean that there isnt someone who does. Keep looking.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Maybe just a little sour grapes by a bucks fan, or at least my assumption is that he is a bucks fan considering his moniker is "bucksketball". Can you imagine if Scuds were given a blog to write about Mark Texiera?

Regardless, I have no problem with what he said. Ive watched CV play plenty of times. Cleveland wanted him but they couldnt give him more than the mid level exception.

Detroit had to beat that. They had to beat the mid level exception to convince him to play for a non contender. So what did Detroit get?

If they staggered the contract, 6-7-8-9-10, The hit in the first two years will be negligible for a 24 year old low post player that can score and rebound. A majority of his problems are mental not physical. He has ability and no one denies it...and he's not an a.s.s. If he plays well, youve got a low post starter for bargain dollars by NBA standards. If he doesnt improve, then its still not a bad deal until year four and by year five you can trade the expiring contract.

The gordon deal might have been a reach. I dont like undersized two guards unless you have a big combo guard to pair him with. For that kind of money, they are betting on him being a stud. This is hit or miss.

I just cant see these two making Detroit appreciably better. They obviously have to do some more moving but spending to spend does not work and unless there is a major move down the road to make this all make sense I think that Dumars is reaching.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No one said that they were right or wrong but in case you hadn't noticed there isn't a whole lot of objective Milwaukee Bucks observations out there. Just because you cant find anyone that agrees with you about the Clippers purge of Crap Randolph doesnt mean that there isnt someone who does. Keep looking.

That's the thing though. I haven't looked at all so there's no need to continue looking. Even if I did look and find one, that would still only be another person's opinion. I don't feel like I need anyone else's opinion to feel validated with my own opinion of something I've been involved with for 30 years. If I need to read someone else say something in agreement in order to feel like I'm right, I've wasted my own time. I'm sure you feel the same way. If I'm all of a sudden hired by a basketball magazine to write for them and someone on an internet disagrees with you opinion and finds an article that I wrote that also disgarees with your opinion and posts it, will that make you feel like your opinion is wrong?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

That's the thing though. I haven't looked at all so there's no need to continue looking. Even if I did look and find one, that would still only be another person's opinion. I don't feel like I need anyone else's opinion to feel validated with my own opinion of something I've been involved with for 30 years. If I need to read someone else say something in agreement in order to feel like I'm right, I've wasted my own time. I'm sure you feel the same way. If I'm all of a sudden hired by a basketball magazine to write for them and someone on an internet disagrees with you opinion and finds an article that I wrote that also disgarees with your opinion and posts it, will that make you feel like your opinion is wrong?

No but you brought up the topic. However other opinion pieces are pertinent to the conversation and sometimes points are made that perhaps you hadn't considered.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

No but you brought up the topic. However other opinion pieces are pertinent to the conversation and sometimes points are made that perhaps you hadn't considered.

I'll agree with the last point.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I just cant see these two making Detroit appreciably better. They obviously have to do some more moving but spending to spend does not work and unless there is a major move down the road to make this all make sense I think that Dumars is reaching.

What else were they going to do? Rasheed is old and is gone. Who else were they going to sign in the low post that was better? younger? More talented? Cheaper? Who was coming up next year?

Joe Dumars took a long look in the mirror and was extremely honest. Chris Bosh isnt coming. Dwayne Wade isnt coming. Lebron isnt coming. So in this depressed market, who else were they going to get?

Its easy to say "he shouldnt have spent the money" but we don't have to sell tickets. Joe does. They have to field an NBA quality team and perhaps there are more moves down the road. Time will tell.

If Ben Gordon turns out to be a star, we will be looking back on how shrewd these moves were.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

What else were they going to do? Rasheed is old and is gone. Who else were they going to sign in the low post that was better? younger? More talented? Cheaper?

David Lee for peanuts. Paul Millsap? Or they could have worked out a trade for Mr. 20-10. LOL.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

David Lee for peanuts. Paul Millsap? Or they could have worked out a trade for Mr. 20-10. LOL.

LOL. Mr. 20-10 would have been a steal at the bargain basement price of 33 million remaining over 2 years. I heard that they were actually considering doing this but only if they could replace Joe Dumars with Isaiah thomas.

Milsap is good but he wanted a 10 million dollar contract. I know he isnt going to get it but thats what his agent put out there. And is there much difference really?

David Lee wants 12 million per year. 12 million.

CV signed for 5 years and 35 million dollars. He was a good deal at those numbers.

Spurs are moving their team to a retirement home.
McDyess...
This team will bankrupt medicare.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

What else were they going to do? Rasheed is old and is gone. Who else were they going to sign in the low post that was better? younger? More talented? Cheaper? Who was coming up next year?

Joe Dumars took a long look in the mirror and was extremely honest. Chris Bosh isnt coming. Dwayne Wade isnt coming. Lebron isnt coming. So in this depressed market, who else were they going to get?

Its easy to say "he shouldnt have spent the money" but we don't have to sell tickets. Joe does. They have to field an NBA quality team and perhaps there are more moves down the road. Time will tell.

If Ben Gordon turns out to be a star, we will be looking back on how shrewd these moves were.

Still liking Detroits signings?

27. (14) Detroit Pistons (26.6 / 0.0%) [ 25 / 26 / 44 ]
Rankings: NET: 28; OFF: 24; DEF: 22; PACE: 29

Desperate times in Detroit? First-year head coach John Kuester, who oozes of competence and experience, has lorded over the Pistons' longest stretch of losing in 17 years. He's shaken up the lineup several times, but mostly has acted as a switchboard operator, plugging in healthy or semi-healthy bodies for frontline players that have gone down with injuries at a dizzying pace. Player availability issues don't explain everything that is going on in Detroit, however. The questions I had about this team entering the season remain unanswered. What is the plan here? What kind of team is Joe Dumars crafting? Where does Rip Hamilton end and Ben Gordon begin? Does Tayshaun Prince walk into the locker room and jump with fright at the sight of his doppelgänger, Austin Daye? Just what exactly has been accomplished by the Ben Wallace farewell tour in the Motor City? Why was Charlie Villanueva such a free agent get when the Bucks didn't even see fit to extend a qualifying offer to the jump-shooting big man? I could go on all day with the questions (Is Rodney Stuckey really a point guard?), but you get the idea. Dumars has until the trade deadline to make some sense of all this and I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Doesn't he?

http://www.basketballprospectus.com/...?articleid=862