Trying To Make Money On Big Brown Today... - Page 10

RollerDoc · #**181** 08-06-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Why would he be "great" if he beats more bad horses in the BC? The only way you could even make an argument for him being "great" - which in my opinion is a waste of time anyways - is if he were to face Curlin and beat him on dirt. . . which he could never do.

I'm pretty certain that Big Brown will be in a race featuring the best of the best which is the whole purpose of this race. Hopefully this weeds out the bad horses.

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**182** 08-06-2008, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Not sure why you are stumped? So he would not be great IF he wins two Triple Crown Races, Two Grade One Races, and the BCC?

did you bet him in his first start..on the turf ..i did ..hes ok but any top 3 runner in ANY TC RACE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WOULD SMOKE HIM.

hockey2315 · #**183** 08-06-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

I'm pretty certain that Big Brown will be in a race featuring the best of the best which is the whole purpose of this race. Hopefully this weeds out the bad horses.

There's no use arguing with a clueless Big Brown groupie like you. . .

RollerDoc · #**184** 08-06-2008, 07:46 PM

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There's no use arguing with a clueless Big Brown groupie like you. . .

Arguing.....Look who's talking Mr. Huh? Great argument on your part. At least you are good at insulting.

RollerDoc · #**185** 08-06-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

did you bet him in his first start..on the turf ..i did ..hes ok but any top 3 runner in ANY TC RACE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS WOULD SMOKE HIM.

I have bet him five races so far. The last five. I missed the Allowance race if I am correct but not sure if that was his first.

If there was a way to bet against your Top 3 TC in the last 10 year statement, I would take some serious cash from you. You are really putting all 30 of those horses or duplicates against beating Big Brown every time? C'mon.

hockey2315 · #**186** 08-06-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Arguing.....Look who's talking Mr. Huh? Great argument on your part. At least you are good at insulting.

There's no use arguing with you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're so in love with this horse that you bet him at 1/5, and have no historical perspective that would help you understand why Big Brown isn't "great."

hoovesupsideyourhead · #**187** 08-06-2008, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

I have bet him five races so far. The last five. I missed the Allowance race if I am correct but not sure if that was his first.

If there was a way to bet against your Top 3 TC in the last 10 year statement, I would take some serious cash from you. You are really putting all 30 of those horses or duplicates against beating Big Brown every time? C'mon.

HES OK . thats it..this is by far the worst year for good horses ie running even close to normal speed figs as a whole. 95 perc of the tc horses this year cant break a 102 beyer..

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RollerDoc · #**189** 08-06-2008, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

There's no use arguing with you because you don't know what you're talking about. You're so in love with this horse that you bet him at 1/5, and have no historical perspective that would help you understand why Big Brown isn't "great."

So I bet him at 1/5. Is that crazy?...Yes. Did I bet a fortune? No. Did having a little action on him make the race more enjoyable for me to watch on ESPNC? Absolutely! What is wrong with that? Plus he won. And if he didn't, then no big deal because I have won hundreds on him this year. I'd still have a plentiful surplus.

Historical perspective is something I am learning admittedly. I am not comparing him to the greats of the past or the greats of the past that I don't even know about. By standing up for his accomplishments thus far against a tenured crowd who is giving him very little respect is something I choose to believe in. Don't confuse that with being in love with the horse.

But I do love learning about this sport which I prefer over being insulted.

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RollerDoc · #**191** 08-06-2008, 08:29 PM

Then don't read it! It can't be too bad if you continue to post. Or you are really bored.

Danzig · #**192** 08-06-2008, 08:30 PM

i'm really bored.

hockey2315 · #**193** 08-06-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

So I bet him at 1/5. Is that crazy?...Yes. Did I bet a fortune? No. Did having a little action on him make the race more enjoyable for me to watch on ESPNC? Absolutely! What is wrong with that? Plus he won. And if he didn't, then no big deal because I have won hundreds on him this year. I'd still have a plentiful surplus.

Historical perspective is something I am learning admittedly. I am not comparing him to the greats of the past or the greats of the past that I don't even know about. By standing up for his accomplishments thus far against a tenured crowd who is giving him very little respect is something I choose to believe in. Don't confuse that with being in love with the horse.

But I do love learning about this sport which I prefer over being insulted.

So you admit to not knowing what you're talking about, and acknowledge that others know more, but refuse to listen to them when they say this horse isn't great?

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RollerDoc · #**195** 08-06-2008, 08:34 PM

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i'm really bored.

Well Danzig, you and Coach Pants have a combined 20,000 posts. At some point you guys are going to be bored. Glad I could break up some of the excitement for you.

#**196** 08-06-2008, 08:37 PM

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Well Danzig, you and Coach Pants have a combined 20,000 posts. At some point you guys are going to be bored. Glad I could break up some of the excitement for you.

Well at least we know who Dr. Fager is. What the hell are you doing with your free time? Trying to breathe with your mouth closed?

Danzig · #**197** 08-06-2008, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RollerDoc

Well Danzig, you and Coach Pants have a combined 20,000 posts. At some point you guys are going to be bored. Glad I could break up some of the excitement for you.

i got up at four am, and worked 14 hours today, so now i'm relaxing and taking some down time. do you mind?

as for my post count, who cares? i rank pointing out a post count with saying 'he's done enough'. oh, and with starting yet another big brown thread.

RollerDoc · #**198** 08-06-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

So you admit to not knowing what you're talking about, and acknowledge that others know more, but refuse to listen to them when they say this horse isn't great?

I asked if he would be great if he wins BCC? Not sure if anyone agrees with me, or no one has so far in that scenario. I happen to think he will be great with the year he had. It is not Big Brown's fault that the quality of his competition does not satisfy you or anybody else.

The fact is, with the exception of The Belmont (and I think there are a lot of people including myself that would love to know what really went wrong), he will have won every race if he wins the BCC. He was hurt early as a three year old so his next race he had to heal. Then he raced three times in five weeks. Who else did that? The Haskell was two months later but that is because Big Brown had issues that needed to be looked into so there was no risk in endangering the horse. One more race before the BCC makes sense to me. That is a very solid attendance record for racing this year.

PS....Since Big Brown beat Da'Tara by over 30 lengths at FL Derby, isn't that a pretty good indicator that something was clearly wrong at The Belmont. Some say yeah, he was washed up. Very unfair to the Derby and Preakness champion.

RollerDoc · #**199** 08-06-2008, 08:47 PM

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Well at least we know who Dr. Fager is. What the hell are you doing with your free time? Trying to breathe with your mouth closed?

At least that is progress over your past two posts. Welcome back.

hockey2315 · #**200** 08-06-2008, 08:50 PM

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PS....Since Big Brown beat Da'Tara by over 30 lengths at FL Derby, isn't that a pretty good indicator that something was clearly wrong at The Belmont. Some say yeah, he was washed up. Very unfair to the Derby and Preakness champion.

Nobody's arguing against that part. . . it's not his loss that doesn't make him great - it's that his good performances aren't good enough.