Ed DeRosa tweets get attention after the Shuvee

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is complete and utter BS. You just made this up out of thin air. We praise Game on Dude constantly as arguably the best horse in the country. Please, find some examples from credible people that supports your contention.

This kind of paranoia is just plain silly.

Originally Posted by pointman

Where is this perception? Game on Dude has danced every dance, I have never heard anyone say that because he has won races in California he is just ok.

The criticism about Zenyatta was the level of competition she was generally placed against, not that she was based in California.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

This is complete and utter BS. You just made this up out of thin air. We praise Game on Dude constantly as arguably the best horse in the country. Please, find some examples from credible people that supports your contention.

This kind of paranoia is just plain silly.

I was not talking about you, I see your show and you know it because I make comments.

Did you see Ed's tweets, the perception among some people is out there.

[10 pnt move up]

I will pull up an older article from your partner in crime from Talking Horses last Sunday...he was making this very point after the Santa Anita Handicap, maybe the race before.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

Too further my point lets take Game On Dude, who by every measure is a very very good horse. He has run on dirt and synthetic, in exclusively grade 1 or 2 competition, ran extremely fast figures, ran a super second in the BC Classic while shipping to Churchill but he has yet to win at Saratoga, and to a lesser extent Belmont. There is a perception out there that he just is ok and winning because he runs in California where the reality is he wins because he is very very good.

Where is this perception? Game on Dude has danced every dance, I have never heard anyone say that because he has won races in California he is just ok.

The criticism about Zenyatta was the level of competition she was generally placed against, not that she was based in California.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

She won twice at OP, though that really isn't "east". East of California, sure.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

She won twice at OP, though that really isn't "east". East of California, sure.

She flew over those treacherous Rockies. What more do you want?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by pweizer

Zenyatta did ship east and run on dirt twice if memory serves. She was dominant at Oaklawn and missed by a nose in the Breeders Cup Classic at Churchill.

Zenyatta did get a ton of hype. I don't know if she was an all time great. But, the idea that she couldn't run on a real surface strikes me as plain silly.

Paul

not zenyatta again...

but i have to say, i can't believe arkansas is now considered 'east'. she shipped in an easterly direction, but i do believe that states on the western side of the mississippi river aren't considered eastern states. matter of fact, i think the original line of demarcation was the appalachians...this side of the cumberland gap is east?

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Danzig

not zenyatta again...

but i have to say, i can't believe arkansas is now considered 'east'. she shipped in an easterly direction, but i do believe that states on the western side of the mississippi river aren't considered eastern states. matter of fact, i think the original line of demarcation was the appalachians...this side of the cumberland gap is east?

Quiet Yankee!

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Quiet Yankee!

lol

i was born in maryland, south of the mason dixon...thus, not a yankee.

of course people down here think if you were born north of I-40, that you're a yankee (i guess i'm a damn yankee, as i came down and never left!).