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Old 06-14-2006, 10:27 AM
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wrong and wrong, depends on teh exotic bet you are speaking of, all have different takeouts. I'm done here. I notice the guys who dontattend Ny racing and live in other states have the most "knowledge" on the topic. I just cant take levels of stupidity like I am witnessinig on this thread. Later guys, Im busy this afternoon anyway.
Too busy to read the report? Love the non-profit scam they have there too. What a joke.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:29 AM
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NYRA takes out 6% more than Churchill when it comes to exotic bets. I believe, and please correct me if I am wrong, but NYRA takes out 25% on exotics and Churchill takes out I believe 19%.
Churchill does have a lower takout than NYRA ( I was discussing Magna, which apparantly you realize you can't defend as you have gone off on a tangent which I never claimed ) though the numbers you refer to are for three horse or three horse multi-race bets ( and beyond ).

Churchill is in Kentucky, which in case you are unaware, is a racetrack friendly State. Also, Churchill Downs is only open for three months a year for racing and thus do not have to support purses for twelve months as NYRA does.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:33 AM
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Churchill does have a lower takout than NYRA ( I was discussing Magna, which apparantly you realize you can't defend as you have gone off on a tangent which I never claimed ) though the numbers you refer to are for three horse or three horse multi-race bets ( and beyond ).

Churchill is in Kentucky, which in case you are unaware, is a racetrack friendly State. Also, Churchill Downs is only open for three months a year for racing and thus do not have to support purses for twelve months as NYRA does.
Exactly. KY has numerous owners run its tracks. Business people. NYRA runs all three tracks and it isn't even a business. It is typical non-profit government corruption.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:55 AM
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Churchill does have a lower takout than NYRA ( I was discussing Magna, which apparantly you realize you can't defend as you have gone off on a tangent which I never claimed ) though the numbers you refer to are for three horse or three horse multi-race bets ( and beyond ).

Churchill is in Kentucky, which in case you are unaware, is a racetrack friendly State. Also, Churchill Downs is only open for three months a year for racing and thus do not have to support purses for twelve months as NYRA does.
Fair statement. But the tracks in Kentucky have a lowes payout on 3 and 4 horse bets. I dont know much Gulfstream as I dont wager that track. I am not a big Frank fan. I honestly think Churchill gets the contract.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:02 AM
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Yeah I know, its been really tiresome watching NYRA the "evil empire" charging people 2 and 3 dollars to get into saratoga Race Course while their counterparts charge 150 to get into the DERby or 40 dolars to sit in a carrel with no view of the track at Gulf. What awful guys they are huh?
Oh and evil NYRA instituted a detention barn to attempt to stop raceday cheating, while none of their counterparst have followed suit.
NYRA has consistently provided the highest quality of year round racing of anyone on the planet. This while doing it under a not for profit status and not gouging fans when they walk in the door.
No horseman or betors have been cheated out of money they deserve even one time. Gee what a horrible group huh?
Let's keep the money in NYS. I favor the NYRA with a better business model.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:03 AM
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Let's keep the money in NYS. I favor the NYRA with a better business model.
What money? NYRA loses money and pays zero taxes.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:05 AM
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We don't want NYS racing money siphoned off to Churchill or Stronach or any other outsider.
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Old 06-14-2006, 11:07 AM
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We don't want NYS racing money siphoned off to Churchill or Stronach or any other outsider.
What NYS racing money? Is there any?
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