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Old 10-27-2006, 11:19 AM
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Belmont and Aqueduct are ghost towns. NYRA has done an absolutely miserable job marketing the two tracks with their stupid commercials about horse names. They have no concerts there, nothing. It is a complete joke.
I remember seeing horses like Seattle Slew and Affirmed at Belmont and Aqueduct, but we heard concerts, too! It was another time and IT AIN'T COMIN' BACK.
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Old 10-27-2006, 11:43 AM
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I remember seeing horses like Seattle Slew and Affirmed at Belmont and Aqueduct, but we heard concerts, too! It was another time and IT AIN'T COMIN' BACK.
They are ghost towns. Without question. However, in NY, and with NYRA, there is no longer a question of how to make it better. Today it is a question of how to survive. They cannot start addressing these things until there is massive and drastic overhaul of state legislation (in addition to the business model).

However, personally, unless they turn a deaf ear and neglect to see the reality -- I believe it can come back. Perhaps I am being naive. However, I do remember years ago Barry Schwartz going up to Woodbine (I believe he visited other tracks with VLT's, racinos, etc. as well). I was talking with him once about it and I remember him talking about when he came back he spoke of the facility and the business model. He had a very positive reaction and attitude -- he liked it. Maybe I am wrong but that's the way I remember it and that is my interpretation. He might have even gone as far as saying something along the lines of "that's what we should have" or "we should build it that way" (I don't remember).

Anyway -- this is NY baby!!! The greatest place in the world!!! You want hot dogs -- you go to Nathan's in CI ! You want pastrami, head over to Katz's or the Carnegie Deli (I love The Stage as well, LOL). You want it, you got it and the best of it -- right here . . . The greatest city in the world.

AND . . . if you want racing baby -- well it should be that NY RACING IS WHERE IT'S AT!!! Don't count it out just yet. Some of us might think that it might be on life support . . . but it ain't dead yet. LOL.

Eric
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:43 PM
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They would draw zilch if Churchill or Magna ran the tracks.
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:44 PM
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They would draw zilch if Churchill or Magna ran the tracks.
You know this based on what? Atleast Churchill and Magna make efforts to attract people.

Saratoga is a goldmine. Even the idiots at NYRA couldn't screw that up.
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:49 PM
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You know this based on what? Atleast Churchill and Magna make efforts to attract people.

Saratoga is a goldmine. Even the idiots at NYRA couldn't screw that up.
Granted you are extremely qualified to identify idiots, but you love to throw out generalities ( obviously because you know no actual specifics ), and perhaps you would specifically like to identify these so-called " idiots ". Certianly you have learned by now that nobody is falling for your false generalizations.
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:47 PM
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The Meadowlands and Monmouth do not give away their signal for free the way NYRA does pretty much all over NY State. They also don't have OTBs next door to them, or even close, the way the NY tracks do.

Don't get me wrong, I wish more people went to Belmont and Aqueduct, but NYRA has gone out of its way to give its signal to those that want it and the betting figures reflect that.
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Old 10-26-2006, 07:54 PM
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The Meadowlands and Monmouth do not give away their signal for free the way NYRA does pretty much all over NY State. They also don't have OTBs next door to them, or even close, the way the NY tracks do.

Don't get me wrong, I wish more people went to Belmont and Aqueduct, but NYRA has gone out of its way to give its signal to those that want it and the betting figures reflect that.
It still is no excuse for not having concerts and poor promotion.

God forbid people went to the track then all the mobsters who own car dealerships wouldn't have anywhere to park the new cars they are selling.

Shut down that dump they call Aqueduct and build some more stalls at Belmont. There is no reason to have two racetracks. NYRA can sell the land they claim to own. LOL.

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