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Old 10-13-2006, 12:30 PM
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Well said. They are responsible for putting a ton of money into the business and helping employ many americans.

There is no reason to continue racing this horse. He will start at $250K and he will have no problem filling his book. This is the horse they will depend on for their derby horses for years to come.

Remember, they have Discreet Cat for their big race.

What big race would Bernardini being going after next year. He can't run in the derby, so what would be the point? Once you win the BC Classic there isn't much to target.

The pedigree on this horse is the best there has ever been. He will have a huge impact on the breed.
He was being sarcastic. Thanks for the laugh.
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:50 PM
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Well said. They are responsible for putting a ton of money into the business and helping employ many americans.

There is no reason to continue racing this horse. He will start at $250K and he will have no problem filling his book. This is the horse they will depend on for their derby horses for years to come.

Remember, they have Discreet Cat for their big race.

What big race would Bernardini being going after next year. He can't run in the derby, so what would be the point? Once you win the BC Classic there isn't much to target.

The pedigree on this horse is the best there has ever been. He will have a huge impact on the breed.

I wasn't aware that he had won the Breeders Cup Classic. I musta slept longer than I thought I did. Is it November 4th already?
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:55 PM
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I wasn't aware that he had won the Breeders Cup Classic. I musta slept longer than I thought I did. Is it November 4th already?
It is inevitable. He is significantly better than any horse running today. Track surface will mean nothing either. He can win in anything. Many in breeding business in KY believe he is the best horse and the best stallion prospect they have ever seen. I tend to agree. As a son of AP Indy, he is peaking right when he was expected to peak. This BC Classic will not be competitive. It will be no more competitive than any of his races, even if George Washington and David Junior take to the dirt.

You guys who dislike the trainer and the owners need to learn that horses don't know who their trainers and owners are. They are animals and the fastest ones win.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:05 PM
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I dont know why all the animosity towards the Godolphin crew, they singlehandedly saved horse racing and the breeding industry in the US
Jerry, as much as I love racing, I'd be fine if it went down the tubes tomorrow if it meant that people persecuted, tortured and murdered throughout the world were saved! The reason that there is hostility toward supposed "sportsmen" who flaunt their ill-begotten riches and claim to be humanitarians??? Well, let me think.....!!! I hope the horse outlives them all!!!
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:39 PM
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Default A.P. Indy Retires At the Age of 3

A.P. Indy Retires At the Age of 3

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A964958260

I just wonder, did anyone complain as much when AP Indy retired?
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:54 PM
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A.P. Indy Retires At the Age of 3

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A964958260

I just wonder, did anyone complain as much when AP Indy retired?
Of course.
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Old 10-14-2006, 12:09 AM
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A.P. Indy Retires At the Age of 3

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A964958260

I just wonder, did anyone complain as much when AP Indy retired?
well,
Ap Indy had his soundness issues from what I remember(I was kind of young).
Im not aware of any health problems Bern has had.

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Old 10-14-2006, 09:50 AM
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Ap Indy had his soundness issues from what I remember(I was kind of young).
Im not aware of any health problems Bern has had.

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The only problems Indy had were the quarter crack issue that kept him from running in the Derby. Once that was patched up and taken care of, he didn't have any problems thereafter. I was very annoyed, though not surprised, about his retirement - I was just glad he was staying in the US. As his owner was Japanese, I thought maybe he'd be sent to stud there.

There is no excuse for Bernardini's retirement - the horse is as sound as a dollar and has so much to give on the racetrack. There are no words in the English language to describe how I feel about what the Sheikh is doing.
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Old 10-14-2006, 11:06 AM
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A.P. Indy Retires At the Age of 3

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...51C1A964958260

I just wonder, did anyone complain as much when AP Indy retired?
Yep, I was ticked at that. I've also never been a fan of Hanc-ock (had to hyphenate, or it wouldn't print the second syllable!) since he retired Forty-Niner as a 3-yr-old. You can imagine how heart-broken I was that Forty-Niner was no factor in his last race, the BC Classic. (he took a bad step, according to Julie Krone, but his retirement had already been announced.) But at least Forty-Niner ran 19 times in his career, 13 times as a 3-yr-old. That looks pretty good in comparison to the horses being whisked off today.

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