RacingPost reports 'Dini done after BC...

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

S2s,
I kinda understand what you're saying.
Seems to me that some folks have much more of a problem with the owners than the horse.
Maybe they're unable to make the distinction.

btw...I also hate disguised racism.

I seriously didn't see ANY racism on this thread whatsoever... it's a hatred for what they are doing to the racing industry.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

S2s,
I kinda understand what you're saying.
Seems to me that some folks have much more of a problem with the owners than the horse.
Maybe they're unable to make the distinction.

btw...I also hate disguised racism.

Let's see, you agreed with a poster who called me a racist with absolutely no cause whatsoever. You did this, mind you, to someone who made only one post in the thread....which was directed towards me. What inference would you like me to make.

After that you stated " I also hate disguised racism ".

Yeah, yer right, you said nothing to lead me to my response.

Amazing stuff.

If this truly happens and the horse is sound after the Breeders' Cup Classic, I would be PISSED, and my support (which isn't really support other than the fact that they happen to own my two favorite horses) for Darley would REALLY deminish...

I thought they'd do the right thing because of their finanical position and display some sense of sportingness - and they still might - but there would be NOBODY more disappointed in them if they retire Bernardini after the BC...nobody...

I know that he is probably a $100,000,000 peice of horse flesh and potentially the most expensive horse we've seen in years (way moreso than FuPeg was), but with money not being a huge object to those guys and the fact that he is such an efficient and easy mover and is sound - retiring that horse would be a damn shame....a damn shame...it makes me mad thinking about the possibilty of it

[TitanSooner]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They are the enemies of racing.

This is just further confirmation. Only the breeders can defend them because they have made them staggeringly wealthy.

Pretty lame....makes me root against this horse and every horse they have.

Amen.......

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They are the enemies of racing.

This is just further confirmation. Only the breeders can defend them because they have made them staggeringly wealthy.

Pretty lame....makes me root against this horse and every horse they have.

Double Amen.

[Revolution]

Somebody thinks he is great, because his stud starting fee is rumored to exceed Ghostzappers.

[randallscott35]

Sorry to say but I have to root against him in the Classic. I don't want to hear for the rest of my life how insanely special he was when he didn't raced for a grand total of 8 starts. A beating or off the board in the BCC would cement that I would never have to hear that....That's 8 starts people. Not 20. He is anything but overraced. This is as bad a decision as it gets.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They are the enemies of racing.

This is just further confirmation. Only the breeders can defend them because they have made them staggeringly wealthy.

Pretty lame....makes me root against this horse and every horse they have.

The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

Find one " anti-arab " comment I have made before calling me a bigot you swine.

And my posts are objectionable?

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

I am hardly anti-Arab, I am anti-despot however! Where do you think all that money used to buy horses comes from??? I have family in the region and lived with them for a time...you want to believe these folks are "good guys" try living under their rule for awhile! I am just as much against white, black or oriental despots!!

[JJP]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

The anti-Arab racing thing is getting old.

Why in the world is it worthy of your enmity that they move the colt to stud?

It's their horse, not yours, and if they feel it's right to retire him, so be it.

Criticize the decision all you want rationally, but why not leave the anti-Arab thing alone for a while?

That's ridiculous. They clearly are NOT sporting and are only in it to feed their massive egos. They are the ones who drive up the yearling prices by overpaying for the likes of TGM. I'll be hoping Bernardini finishes off the board in the Classic.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by JJP

That's ridiculous. They clearly are NOT sporting and are only in it to feed their massive egos. They are the ones who drive up the yearling prices by overpaying for the likes of TGM. I'll be hoping Bernardini finishes off the board in the Classic.

There is more to the Green Monkey story than what meets the eye...

[Slewbopper]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He can defend himself, but I don't think his problem is their nationality. He actually didn't say anything about their nationality. They have more or less been taking away from US racing by buying up a ton of horses, and taking them away. How much of that $57 million or however much they spent at Keeneland in horseflesh do you think we will be seeing here? If the past few years are any indication, very little.

So true.....Kick 'em out of Keeneland

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

He can defend himself, but I don't think his problem is their nationality. He actually didn't say anything about their nationality. They have more or less been taking away from US racing by buying up a ton of horses, and taking them away. How much of that $57 million or however much they spent at Keeneland in horseflesh do you think we will be seeing here? If the past few years are any indication, very little.

I think we are going to see MANY from the sale racing here on US soil. Sheikh Maktoum is buying American-types in hopes of winning the American classics. An example is the colt Vindication/Serena's Tune.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Here is what the initial piece of human filth said to me



in response to my posting



and then you post directed to the initial filth



But somehow you can't figure out why I have a problem with you?

Once again, I realize that perhaps you didn't mean to call me a racist, but you did, and your insistence that you didn't is preposterous.

The bottom line? Think about what you are posting before doing it if you are not willing to accept the consequences.

All I said was that I "kinda understand".
Clarify for me what "enemies of racing" means if you will.
I never called anyone "filth" for expressing their views.
All I've tried to say in my last three posts is that I really have no ax to grind with you.
If you have a problem with me...well, sad to say, that's YOUR problem.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

All I said was that I "kinda understand".
Clarify for me what "enemies of racing" means if you will.
I never called anyone "filth" for expressing their views.
All I've tried to say in my last three posts is that I really have no ax to grind with you.
If you have a problem with me...well, sad to say, that's YOUR problem.

" enemies of racing ", to me, would be people who act against the best interests of racing...which I feel Godolphin does overall. Yeah, they are exceedingly generous towards the breeders , but to the racing fan they continually deny us the pleasure we may get from seeing good horses run, at least in America.

As regards my " filth " references, that coward who called me a racist and thinks he ( or she ) is clever and doesn't apologize, or back up, his ( or her ) unfounded remarks is the very definition of filth.

Another hijacked thread....gotta love it!

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Another hijacked thread....gotta love it!

Cunningham Racing, are you related to Andrea Cunningham or her ex-husband Jim (Fifteen) Cunningham?

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

" enemies of racing ", to me, would be people who act against the best interests of racing...which I feel Godolphin does overall. Yeah, they are exceedingly generous towards the breeders , but to the racing fan they continually deny us the pleasure we may get from seeing good horses run, at least in America.

As regards my " filth " references, that coward who called me a racist and thinks he ( or she ) is clever and doesn't apologize, or back up, his ( or her ) unfounded remarks is the very definition of filth.

Well, as far as Godolphin goes, yes...they've made some breeders very rich, and their egos take over at the sales. Just my humble opinion...but I hardly think they are enemies. For sure they'd love to have a Derby winner...that elusive goal they'd pay any price for.
And yes, racing fans aren't high on their agenda.
But think of this for a minute. They've poured many millions into the sport for whatever their reasons.
You know as well as I do that this game takes very deep pockets.
If they have them, own several farms, employ many to help them fulfill their dream...that's ok with me.
I also would love to see their best horses run longer. You might agree with me that the risk of putting one on the track for two minutes where the purse doesn't even come close to what it would bring by breeding is a business decision. I'm not making excuses for them. I'm just attempting to understand what their motivation is.

As far as the second part of your statement...I'm not commenting.
That's between you and someone besides me.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Well, as far as Godolphin goes, yes...they've made some breeders very rich, and their egos take over at the sales. Just my humble opinion...but I hardly think they are enemies. For sure they'd love to have a Derby winner...that elusive goal they'd pay any price for.
And yes, racing fans aren't high on their agenda.
But think of this for a minute. They've poured many millions into the sport for whatever their reasons.
You know as well as I do that this game takes very deep pockets.
If they have them, own several farms, employ many to help them fulfill their dream...that's ok with me.
I also would love to see their best horses run longer. You might agree with me that the risk of putting one on the track for two minutes where the purse doesn't even come close to what it would bring by breeding is a business decision. I'm not making excuses for them. I'm just attempting to understand what their motivation is.

As far as the second part of your statement...I'm not commenting.
That's between you and someone besides me.

It's their money and they can do with it as they choose ( as long as it's legal ) but I don't have to like what they do. I feel like they have a sort of " obligation " to us, the people that support racing and pay the bills, i.e. bettors, to give something back to us...and they don't. The only people they reward are the breeders, and without bettors the game would simply disappear, so their dream of winning the Derby certainly couldn't be realized, because if every better stopped tomorrow the racetracks would be shut down. There is a complete lack of acknowledgement of this by many people and none more so than Godolphin and their " do as we please " style.

Yes, they could run their horses against each other in Dubai, just as rich people could back to racing against each other on there farms, but somehow I am guessing the glory would be gone with no gamblers left to support the game as the world wide prestige and attention would disappear.

Far-fetched? Of course but I'm making a point. My point is there should be a symbiotic relationship with horse owners and racing fans and there simply isn't at least when it comes to Godolphin.

As far as the game taking " deep pockets ", no doubt, but the need for even deeper pockets has been caused very much by Godolphin. And just to be fair, I am no fan of Coolmore either, in fact I have even bigger problems with them which I simply can't get into. But, suffice to say, neither of these stables have made racing better for us racing fans in the grander scheme of things.