Rachel Alexandra Retired

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

This is definitely foreshadowing that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao isn't gonna happen either.

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

Though I agree, what would you rather see?

[iamthelurker]

I gotta stop posting, clearly not lurking anymore, clyde I'm coming for you, you just wont know when...

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by iamthelurker

Though I agree, what would you rather see?

Don't get me wrong, I want the fight to go, just resigned to the fact it isn't going to happen. Much like I was with the RA/Zen race we all wanted. Plenty of blame to go around too in both situations.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Don't get me wrong, I want the fight to go, just resigned to the fact it isn't going to happen. Much like I was with the RA/Zen race we all wanted. Plenty of blame to go around too in both situations.

+1

[slotdirt]

Debbie Downer voice or Dudley Do Right voice? What did I say that isn't true?

In any event, it has nothing to do with being old (which I am most definitely not), but more to do with seeing things how they are. Racing is a sport that isn't carried financially by its stars and it will always be that way. Nothing anybody can do to change it.

[iamthelurker]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Debbie Downer voice or Dudley Do Right voice? What did I say that isn't true?

In any event, it has nothing to do with being old (which I am most definitely not), but more to do with seeing things how they are. Racing is a sport that isn't carried financially by its stars and it will always be that way. Nothing anybody can do to change it.

^ Not accepting his age OR satisfaction from pessimism?

[slotdirt]

One man's pessimism is another man's realism. And age isn't anything but a number. Zing.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Mayweather would have destroyed him. No loss other than tons of $ to the fight promoters/Vegas/participants.

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I disagree. If Mayweather thought he would destroy him, they would be getting ready to fight. And to the few remaining fans of the sport, it is a loss. Just as to the few remaining fans of the sport, RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Clip-Clop

Sad to say, as one of the remaining fans (I bet often but will still watch and enjoy if I am not) of both sports (probably born about 50 years too late) that I agree, it is a loss to the fans, but fans don't give up on a sport because on event doesn't go. As far as creating new fans...Mayweather v. Pac-Man would not, fight would be too scientific for the casual observer, go the distance and be a scorecard rout, IMO Pac has no D. While we all so badly wanted to see RA v Z nobody is going to give up on horse racing because it didn't happen.

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I do believe that fans give up on a sport because big events dont go. Perhaps not one singular event, but the frustration levels eventually lead to a breaking point. I won't buy Pac/Margarito as I didnt buy Mosley/Mora. They just arent compelling events. I'm not the only one that feels this way. I dont think that Pacquio would let any fight be scientific. His willingness to take punches may work against him in a fight against mayweather. But he would certainly score more against mayweather than the over the hill gang that he has been facing and Floyd is a great frontrunner who may fight a little different if he was faced with real adversity. Not to mention that I can't see a guy who constantly has money problems passing up upwards of 50 million for a fight he truly thinks he will win.

First Bold, great point, I am not there yet for sure but you never know.
Second Bold, if they let Antonio cheat again that would be a great fight.
As far as the fight analysis, we may never know sadly. I have rooted against Floyd over and over and thought that many of the guys would give him some real adversity. Still haven't seen it. Perhaps Manny would be the one to press him hard enough but hand speed at the level he competes is often too much for anybody to deal with.

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

RA vs Z never happening was a loss to the sport.

Not really. Didn't you read this thread Chuck?
RA was so tired after the Woodward that she was never able to run fast again for the rest of her life. Every horsey-board dunce could see that so they probably wouldn't have shown up to watch/bet anyway since RA obviously wouldn't have had a chance.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by HomerS

Here is what I basically think happened.

They could tell early on this year that she wasnt the same. And yes they picked their spots. Thinking that she would snap out of it and turn around. Figuring that if she won a big prep before the BC and then a BC race that the year would still be considered a success.

But its getting late now and they just saw she wasnt going to be the same horse.

So question becomes do they run her anyway and if so for what reason?

They did the logical thing and retired her.

If this is the case, then like Steve Haskin just mentioned, why did they work her like they did on Monday? It was like a exhibition for the barn crew and that's it....

I am disappointed as most of us are and think there is more to this than what is being said by Jackson.

As great a race as the Woodward was....it zapped her that day and she was never the same horse. ...ask Rags to Riches.

Scat

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by scat daddy

As great a race as the Woodward was....it zapped her that day and she was never the same horse.

Really? My theory is that she was so depressed about Law and Order being taken off the air that she decided to only give 98% effort this year as a form of protest.

Where does this crap come from?