Your Gold Cup Exacta Please?

Originally Posted by moke0043

LMAO!!!!!

I hear they sent him to stud where he was born back at the Daisy Hill Puppy Farm. I bet you guys didn't know he was a half brother to Snoopy.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

I believe he is still running down the Belmont stretch as we speak.

That horse ran a heck of a race in the BC given what he was up against. Saint Liam was much the best but if that horse gets a better post and more luck, he possibly gets 2nd/3rd....

He was checked more in the race then he actually got to run

[Pointg5]

Originally Posted by Scav

That horse ran a heck of a race in the BC given what he was up against. Saint Liam was much the best but if that horse gets a better post and more luck, he possibly gets 2nd/3rd....

He was checked more in the race then he actually got to run

Did Blockhead possess you?

I remember he hated St. Liam and loved Starcraft, he got some whacked out idea that since it was NY that they gave Starcraft a bad post and gave St. Liam a good one, too bad they were right next to each other, god that was funny...

[SentToStud]

Not to get off track ..., cold ex... Bern/Ando. Agree with Randall. But, what's the point? $5 for $2? Not for me.

[tycharles01]

Says in USA Today ML

Bernar 1/2
Dylan Thomas 2/1 LOL
Wanderin Boy 5/1
Andromeda's Hero 15/1

Do they know something about Dylan Thomas that know one else does???

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Not to get off track ..., cold ex... Bern/Ando. Agree with Randall. But, what's the point? $5 for $2? Not for me.

It will pay more than 5$ Sent2.

[kentuckyrosesinmay]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes its 4 horses but let's not have a defeatist attitude and try to make the best of it.

Mine 200$ straight Bernardini over Andromeda's Hero. Feel strongly that the 2 horse is Andromeda's. In fact with the bridge jumpers in full effect a good bet might be Andromeda's to place and hope that something is amiss with Bernardini and he's off the board. The place prices will be ridiculous.

Wanderin Boy--yes controlling speed but I don't think he wants to go this far and I expect Bernie to be close to him pressing him. He'll fade. The Euro is anyone's guess but I'll take my chances against him. With Oratorio taking my money and the great Starcraft up the track last year, its a show me world---and the Euros generally do not do well on the dirt in these spots.

That is the only logical way that you can play the race randall. My theory is that Bernardini is going to crush Dylan Thomas's and Wanderin Boy's hearts so bad that they might give up which sets it up for Andromeda's Hero to get second since he is a closer. Wanderin Boy will have the lead, and Dylan Thomas has tactical speed so he will be really close to Bernardini throughout the race. When Bernardini turns it on, I'm banking on those two to completely give up because he will leave them spinning off behind him. Andromeda's Hero should run right by those two.

[Thoroughbred Fan]

The real culprit here is not the Breeder's Cup. It's the owners and breeders!!! You now have a totally different agenda than in the past. In the past, most horse owners really wanted to win races. They enjoyed the sport. They want the excitement and prestige of watching a horse who represented them, and ran in their colors, cross the line first. They wanted to hoist a trophy. Now, unfortunately, their is an agenda to create a specific profile for the breeding shed. This requires most horses to be pushed ahrd before they a really ready and to be run harder early. As soon as you win one good (even a weak G2 will suffice) race, you avoid having your image tarnished. You stick to easy spots or just retire. This is all predicated by a "try to get out ahead on this horse" - breeding shed mentality. It is really sad. A second, but less important overall, side effect of the breeding/sales explosion has been that the Darley folks often own many good horses in the same divisions. I can understand them not wanting to beat themselves, but at the cost of having any exciting racing???

Who knows what the answer is? Maybe if the folks at the stud farms had higher standards for the stallions they would stand. Maybe if the buyers at the sales had higher standards of the accomplishments of the stallions of whom they would purchase offspring. It seems that the champion caliber handicap horse with fifteen career wins is becoming as common as a unicorn.

Whatever the case, I think they should determine the champions in each division through a predetermined racing point system. Take it out of the voters hands. That way you have to RUN to win it.

[SundayStar]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Yes its 4 horses but let's not have a defeatist attitude and try to make the best of it.

Mine 200$ straight Bernardini over Andromeda's Hero. Feel strongly that the 2 horse is Andromeda's. In fact with the bridge jumpers in full effect a good bet might be Andromeda's to place and hope that something is amiss with Bernardini and he's off the board. The place prices will be ridiculous.

Wanderin Boy--yes controlling speed but I don't think he wants to go this far and I expect Bernie to be close to him pressing him. He'll fade. The Euro is anyone's guess but I'll take my chances against him. With Oratorio taking my money and the great Starcraft up the track last year, its a show me world---and the Euros generally do not do well on the dirt in these spots.

i agree. these are my thoughts exactly on this race.