Thank You Mine That Bird

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by ninetoone

Somebody at DRF better edit Beyer's chat transcript from the other day...whoops!

Perhaps Beyer shouldn't even waste his time "Chatting"

[Bernardini]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

I guess two things happened, the good horses all scratched for various reasons in the weeks leading up to the race and one horse loved the off-going....and the rest just aren't that good or completely didn't show up.

Today's Derby, which had a great deal of promise a month ago, ended up being a shell of its possible self, and one run on a sloppy surface that ultimately answered few questions. But at least it didn't produce a slew of undeserved accolades. For that I am thankful.

Mediocities? you gotta be jokin. Mine that Bird is "one hit wonder". you watch .. three horses behind are not. talk to me after he preakness.

[Handicappy]

Originally Posted by Bernardini

Mediocities? you gotta be jokin. Mine that Bird is "one hit wonder". you watch .. three horses behind are not. talk to me after he preakness.

I am just reviewing these posts. He didn't look like a one hit wonder last Saturday.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

I am just reviewing these posts. He didn't look like a one hit wonder last Saturday.

Now YOU are reviewing past posts that turned out wrong? You are about the nerviest guy on the internet.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

I guess two things happened, the good horses all scratched for various reasons in the weeks leading up to the race and one horse loved the off-going....and the rest just aren't that good or completely didn't show up.

Today's Derby, which had a great deal of promise a month ago, ended up being a shell of its possible self, and one run on a sloppy surface that ultimately answered few questions. But at least it didn't produce a slew of undeserved accolades. For that I am thankful.

Poor Jon White. His triple crown dream for POTN is gone. Thank god we won't have to listen to any of his nonsense anymore. I was so damn happy that POTN didn't win. One can only take so much of Baffert sticking his kid in front of every tv camera available.

Obviously nobody on this planet picked the winner...I looked right past him in the pp's....but hell...it's not like he barely won.....he smoked the field today...he deserves some credit. Plus his trainer is a riot....loved him basically telling the dude on NBC to go fu#k off at the end of the interview.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

I guess two things happened, the good horses all scratched for various reasons in the weeks leading up to the race and one horse loved the off-going....and the rest just aren't that good or completely didn't show up.

Today's Derby, which had a great deal of promise a month ago, ended up being a shell of its possible self, and one run on a sloppy surface that ultimately answered few questions. But at least it didn't produce a slew of undeserved accolades. For that I am thankful.

I'm not sure what to think. The slowest horse in the history of the Derby pulls off the biggest upset ever, is that good or bad? I'd rather him win than POTN, but it didn't matter, I wasn't even in the right zipcode.

All I do know is Calvin Borel is the king of Churchill- and again, a deserving winning jockey. And I could normally care less who rides.

[Port Conway Lane]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

I guess two things happened, the good horses all scratched for various reasons in the weeks leading up to the race and one horse loved the off-going....and the rest just aren't that good or completely didn't show up.
Today's Derby, which had a great deal of promise a month ago, ended up being a shell of its possible self, and one run on a sloppy surface that ultimately answered few questions. But at least it didn't produce a slew of undeserved accolades. For that I am thankful.

Who would be in the category of completely didn't show up?
POTN ended up in front of 17 other horses on a surface he wasn't supposed to perform well on according to many detractors and not only does that question still remain unanswered(whether synthetic is a preferred surface or a negligible factor) but a case could be made for him as much as any horse in the field that he didn't show up and run his best race.

[sdjcom]

Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane

Who would be in the category of completely didn't show up?
POTN ended up in front of 17 other horses on a surface he wasn't supposed to perform well on according to many detractors and not only does that question still remain unanswered(whether synthetic is a preferred surface or a negligible factor) but a case could be made for him as much as any horse in the field that he didn't show up and run his best race.

you have to remember since QR,IWR scratched it was a race of average horses. But if one of them would have ran and won then all these so-called pros would have said they beat a good field on a tough track. you have to learn to read between the lines.

Originally Posted by sdjcom

you have to remember since QR,IWR scratched it was a race of average horses. But if one of them would have ran and won then all these so-called pros would have said they beat a good field on a tough track. you have to learn to read between the lines.

I dont think I have ever hit this button.
Wish I had posted this.

[ninetoone]

If Mine that Bird had been blocked, etc...Musket Man would have won by a nose via disqualification...

[geeker2]

what happen to FF?

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by geeker2

what happen to FF?

got tired of running.

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by geeker2

what happen to FF?

Ya know, maybe just maybe 7 weeks is too long to go without real race experience when trying the Derby. Larry Jones notwithstanding, I was very happy Friesan Fire folded. If he'd won, someone would have tried to train up to the Derby from February next year.

--Dunbar

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by geeker2

what happen to FF?

Grabbed a quarter or was stepped on near the start. Tore off some hoof.

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by sdjcom

you have to remember since QR,IWR scratched it was a race of average horses. But if one of them would have ran and won then all these so-called pros would have said they beat a good field on a tough track. you have to learn to read between the lines.

I suppose the ones who didn't handle the track then have to be Dunkirk and West Side Bernie.

[ARyan]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

If it wasn't for Mine That Bird's inscutable effort today, we would have seen three relative mediocrities hit the wire together in one of the slowest KY Derbies in modern history. Now, instead of endlessly hearing about how wonderful a horse Pioneer of the Nile is, and one that only synthetic haters failed to see the obvious greatness of, we can all scratch our heads as to how this otherwise " slow " horse could destroy today's field.

I guess two things happened, the good horses all scratched for various reasons in the weeks leading up to the race and one horse loved the off-going....and the rest just aren't that good or completely didn't show up.

Today's Derby, which had a great deal of promise a month ago, ended up being a shell of its possible self, and one run on a sloppy surface that ultimately answered few questions. But at least it didn't produce a slew of undeserved accolades. For that I am thankful.

[letswastemoney]

If you think about it...Mine That Bird only lost by 3 lengths to Kelly Leak. Hasn't Kelly Leak been running against the best 3 year olds in So Cal?

Maybe the Sunland beyer figures are a bit lower than they should be?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by letswastemoney

If you think about it...Mine That Bird only lost by 3 lengths to Kelly Leak. Hasn't Kelly Leak been running against the best 3 year olds in So Cal?

Maybe the Sunland beyer figures are a bit lower than they should be?

losing three lengths to kelly leak is a good thing? kelly leak is ok, but i wouldn't think he'd be a barometer on the supposed best three year olds.

oh...now i've done it-bashed another west coast horse. scuds'll be on me for sure.

[Travis Stone]

When they neared the quarter pole it looked like Pioneerof the Nile was going to blow open the race and blow up the DerbyTrail.com server.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

When they neared the quarter pole it looked like Pioneerof the Nile was going to blow open the race and blow up the DerbyTrail.com server.

i think most would have rather he won than mine that bird. people want a horse to follow, and a horse to go on to win the tc. i doubt anyone thinks MTB will turn out to be a good one, or that he has a chance to win the other two classics.