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Old 04-29-2009, 01:29 PM
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I love that Musket Man got the 2 hole. In prior races he had no problem sitting the rail until late. Straight shot the the turn he'll be in good position.

I was thinking the same thing ride the rail then shoot out coming down the stretch. Best thing is no early speed anywhere near him so he can stalk until its time.

Doubtful to win but great chance to hit the board if he can get the distance
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:50 PM
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Do the inside horses start a few yards behind the rest? I never understood the inside post avoidance. I'd rather save the ground than lose it. You need to get lucky regardless, I'd take my chances.

the reason one and two are avoided is that you have to move towards the outer rail after the start a bit. if they break straight, and run straight-they'll hit the inner rail where the chute meets the straight/turn.
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Old 04-29-2009, 03:47 PM
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They're graphic had POTN in the 16 post, I believe he is in post 9.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:28 PM
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Default why didnt any one want post nine?
they could have pushed pioneer all the way inside and nobody did it?

i'm going with freisen fire.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:28 PM
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Pioneer had like the fifth choice and took 16.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:30 PM
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hmmm

on kentuckyderby.com he was second to last and got #9
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:44 PM
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hmmm

on kentuckyderby.com he was second to last and got #9

I saw that too, im confused too
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:46 PM
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Ya i am trying to find what is right

But have not seen anything official
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seems strange...he must not do well inside of horses...or they were concerned about a log jam in the first turn.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:31 PM
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Seems like problem with the draw???
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:35 PM
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Pioneer had like the fifth choice and took 16.

Posts 15 and 16 have done well in the Derby, a trainer chose one of those posts early last year, also
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:41 PM
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5 of the last 15 winners from 15 or 16.
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Old 04-29-2009, 12:51 PM
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Posts 15 and 16 have done well in the Derby, a trainer chose one of those posts early last year, also
The auxilary gate makes sense from the standpoint a horse will have half the chance of being bumped at the break, also I think it reduces the wait time in the gate due to the simultaneous load. Atleast I remember reading that from Pletcher's reasoning on selecting 15 for Bandini.
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