Workout injury ends Big Brown Cup hopes, career..

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Scav

I would maybe recatergorize that, he ran some huge races and I think his connections make people think differently.

Hate the connections, not the horse

He may have won some big name races and his Derby effort was a really good one but he never ran higher than a 109 Beyer. I think there is a difference between a huge effort and a fast race and I don't think Big Brown ever ran a really fast race. We used to get horses to routinely run higher than 109 Beyers. Horses like GZ, Skip Away, and Formal Gold were running in the 120's. Candy Ride went over 120. Medaglia was regularly over 115. Pleasantly Perfect. Smarty Jones. Afleet Alex. I mean, the list goes on and on of horses that were faster than him.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Scav

I would maybe recatergorize that, he ran some huge races and I think his connections make people think differently.

Hate the connections, not the horse

I bet the horse in the Derby didn't think he could lose. To me his derby win is a very good race but way slower then most Derby's and with the lamest crap competition ever. Let's face it Big Brown could have been a real nice turf horse. He had a fair amount of talent which allowed him to overcome a lot of sheat competition and dirt. I think he was born in the right year and would have been just a competitor last year in his division.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I bet the horse in the Derby didn't think he could lose. To me his derby win is a very good race but way slower then most Derby's and with the lamest crap competition ever. Let's face it Big Brown could have been a real nice turf horse. He had a fair amount of talent which allowed him to overcome a lot of sheat competition and dirt. I think he was born in the right year and would have been just a competitor last year in his division.

Competitor as in always hitting the board or winning a couple here and there?

I am not going to argue competition because I am not very good at it, but what I will say is that yearly times of the Derby is very hard to compare, the track is not the same year to year, and times indoubtly vary. And especially this year, where there was some moisture in the track because of all the rain they received the week before.

[geeker2]

Now he can take his rightful place in Cooperstown

[smuthg]

Originally Posted by Scav

Hate the connections, not the horse

Well said... Like him or not, this is not a good day for the sport. I realize that I'm probably naive to think that horse racing can once again be relevant in the sports world, but I do think that Curlin v. Big Brown would have at least caused the casual sports fan to flip over to ESPN to watch the Classic.

[Bobby Fischer]

Originally Posted by Handicappy

This had to be a joke. Of course he is going to the shed.