belmont 8th today/just an awful ride by you guessed it!!! - Page 2

Skip away · #1 05-31-2006, 01:00 PM

White Mercedes, LOL! Thats very funny.

Skip away · #2 05-31-2006, 01:02 PM

Any jockey could have ridden Barbaro in the Derby. Some would have won by more, some less depending on the style. The only jockey that could have botched up that ride is Mike Luzzi.

#3 05-31-2006, 01:11 PM

By the way, my clocker tells me if he doesnt win at least three races tomorrow that he should be run outta town on a rail.
Both of his two year olds should win. The turf horse in the first as well.

Skip away · #4 05-31-2006, 01:14 PM

Thank you Oracle.

3/1, 3/5 and 2/1 on the morning line though. I suspect the only horse who has a chance of going off better than even money is the horse in the first race because of the large field. The 2 year olds will be 1/5 and 3/5 respectively. Why even bother carding races like this, its whats ruining the sport and turning people over to auto racing

#5 05-31-2006, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip away

Thank you Oracle.

3/1, 3/5 and 2/1 on the morning line though. I suspect the only horse who has a chance of going off better than even money is the horse in the first race because of the large field. The 2 year olds will be 1/5 and 3/5 respectively. Why even bother carding races like this, its whats ruining the sport and turning people over to auto racing

Skip Away The one in the third is the one that will roll big time. The Monmouth shipper. My clocker says in the 2nd that Hough can fly also. Says its a two horse race.
MY clocker is also my friend and he trained for over 30 years. Hes the most repected guy in NY by the trainers. Hes a private clocker and when the trainers wanna know what their horse REALLY worked in as well as how he looked doing it, Joe's the guy they ask. Hes on the OTB channel show in August up here as well. One of my best friends and mentors, taught me a lot of the inside things and about training and how to really understand how training works. Hes hooked up with clockers at other tracks, they trade info with one another.
When its a baby race, hes my source on the firsters.
When its a two year old race or a race with fir

Cajungator26 · #6 05-31-2006, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip away

Thank you Oracle.

3/1, 3/5 and 2/1 on the morning line though. I suspect the only horse who has a chance of going off better than even money is the horse in the first race because of the large field. The 2 year olds will be 1/5 and 3/5 respectively. Why even bother carding races like this, its whats ruining the sport and turning people over to auto racing

I like horse racing and auto racing.

Anything with speed...

#7 05-31-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I like horse racing and auto racing.

Anything with speed...

Really Cajun? Don't say ANYTHING!!

Skip away · #8 05-31-2006, 01:25 PM

Horses shouldnt even race until they are 3. 2 year old races are whats killing this sport, especially at Saratoga. You get a great card but you have tro suffer through 2 year old maidens in the middle of a pick 3 or pick 6 sequence. Its just awful, they should do away with them all together or at the very least only card these races on schmuck days like Mondays and Wednesdays, not take up half of Saturday cards with them.

The triple crown should be for 4 year olds and the races spaced one month apart. Never should a 3 year old have to come back in 2 weeks time after teh Derby. Shhhheeeesh.

#9 05-31-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip away

Horses shouldnt even race until they are 3. 2 year old races are whats killing this sport, especially at Saratoga. You get a great card but you have tro suffer through 2 year old maidens in the middle of a pick 3 or pick 6 sequence. Its just awful, they should do away with them all together or at the very least only card these races on schmuck days like Mondays and Wednesdays, not take up half of Saturday cards with them.

The triple crown should be for 4 year olds and the races spaced one month apart. Never should a 3 year old have to come back in 2 weeks time after teh Derby. Shhhheeeesh.

I can see your point, but since I have a really sharp clocker, I rather LOVE 2yo races since with 1sters all you have to go on is works.

SCUDSBROTHER · #10 05-31-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip away

Horses shouldnt even race until they are 3. 2 year old races are whats killing this sport, especially at Saratoga. You get a great card but you have tro suffer through 2 year old maidens in the middle of a pick 3 or pick 6 sequence. Its just awful, they should do away with them all together or at the very least only card these races on schmuck days like Mondays and Wednesdays, not take up half of Saturday cards with them.

The triple crown should be for 4 year olds and the races spaced one month apart. Never should a 3 year old have to come back in 2 weeks time after teh Derby. Shhhheeeesh.

The races with unraced 2 year olds are the hanging mole of the industry.No way should they be in the pick 6.If people really cared about the integrity of the sport,they would have these only at the start of the card,or on certain days of the week etc.The problem is that the people who make changes like this(that need to be made)won't do it,because they don't want to give up the inside edge they have.This is not a new issue.It's simply greed.All I ask is they give you one pick 4 a day without unraced 2 year old maidens.I don't see that as an outrageous request.

PSH · #11 05-31-2006, 01:15 PM

Oracle 80:

Can i infer from previous posts on this thread that you own Western Expression and possibly other horses?

If so, best of luck on Friday with Western .....

PSH

#12 05-31-2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH

Oracle 80:

Can i infer from previous posts on this thread that you own Western Expression and possibly other horses?

If so, best of luck on Friday with Western .....

PSH

I do not own him, Lansdon does. I help with the management of some of his horses. Hes one of the best friends a guy could have.

PSH · #13 05-31-2006, 01:21 PM

Funny, i had the opportunity to buy Brantley's half sister who is a yearling by Donreille Court this past month. The mare, Biogio's Rose has a tremendous race record.... The filly is suppose to be a real good looking horse....

Oracle 80, are you going to withdraw the ATM for that short-priced double which should pay about $7...

#14 05-31-2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH

Funny, i had the opportunity to buy Brantley's half sister who is a yearling by Donreille Court this past month. The mare, Biogio's Rose has a tremendous race record.... The filly is suppose to be a real good looking horse....

Oracle 80, are you going to withdraw the ATM for that short-priced double which should pay about $7...

No I will not. Short priced dd's aren't my game, and never have been.
Biogio's Rose was a GREAT Mare!!! I recall that she was trained by Bobby Ribaudo for the Nastasi's. Man could she do it all!! Turf, dirt, mud, slop, you name it she did it. One of those real game mares who would run on broken beer bottles if you asked her to. I think she was out of a Barachois mare.