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#1 07-22-2006, 10:23 PM

It's wonderful to see Giacomo get a "1" next to his name again ... but ...

... the narrowness of his victory and the quality ... or lack thereof ... of his competition ... don't offer much hope for the future.

He'll be OK against G3 horses ... like the ones he faced today ... but don't get too excited about his chances against real G1/G2 competition.

Anyhow ... congratulations Giacomo ... and in case you forgot ... that little enclosure they took you to after the race .... is called the Winner's Circle.

miraja2 · #2 07-22-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

It's wonderful to see Giacomo get a "1" next to his name again ... but ...

... the narrowness of his victory and the quality ... or lack thereof ... of his competition ... don't offer much hope for the future.

He'll be OK against G3 horses ... like the ones he faced today ... but don't get too excited about his chances against real G1/G2 competition.

Anyhow ... congratulations Giacomo ... and in case you forgot ... that little enclosure they took you to after the race .... is called the Winner's Circle.

That is an interesting way to "congratulate" a horse.

SCUDSBROTHER · #3 07-22-2006, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2

That is an interesting way to "congratulate" a horse.

Cold blooded Savages(that's what I am talkin' bout.)

SCUDSBROTHER · #4 07-23-2006, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

It's wonderful to see Giacomo get a "1" next to his name again ... but ...

... the narrowness of his victory and the quality ... or lack thereof ... of his competition ... don't offer much hope for the future.

He'll be OK against G3 horses ... like the ones he faced today ... but don't get too excited about his chances against real G1/G2 competition.

Anyhow ... congratulations Giacomo ... and in case you forgot ... that little enclosure they took you to after the race .... is called the Winner's Circle.

Well,at 2, the horse finished a length off of that year's 2 year old Eclipse winner(in a Grade 1 race.)At 3,he won the biggest race in America for 3 year olds(and beat the future 3 year old Eclipse Winner while doing it.)Last time I looked,that's a Grade 1 race.Today,he takes a Grade 2 race at a distance that is shorter than ideal for him.So,this is a horse who has won a Grade 1,and a Grade 2.If you choose to think he can't win at the level he has already won at,then you choose to be stupid.You think they just give out 2.2 million bucks to an average horse? A grade 3 horse?

SCUDSBROTHER · #5 07-23-2006, 11:22 AM

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#6 07-23-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well,at 2, the horse finished a length off of that year's 2 year old Eclipse winner(in a Grade 1 race.)At 3,he won the biggest race in America for 3 year olds(and beat the future 3 year old Eclipse Winner while doing it.)Last time I looked,that's a Grade 1 race.Today,he takes a Grade 2 race at a distance that is shorter than ideal for him.So,this is a horse who has won a Grade 1,and a Grade 2.If you choose to think he can't win at the level he has already won at,then you choose to be stupid.You think they just give out 2.2 million bucks to an average horse? A grade 3 horse?

Just looking at the present, Scuds ... not trying to write a history book.

Like Funny Cide ... and many others in the past ... Giacomo was once good enough to win a G1 race ... but ...

... he no longer is.

I don't understand why you should take Giacomo's lessened abilities as a personal insult ... or why that's a reason for you to call someone else names.

Dunbar · #7 07-23-2006, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They are always gunna make fun of this horse.I would just like for his last race to be a Graded Stakes Win. If he runs 4th or 5th in a race,and is retired,then you just give the savages more tool to cut with.

Wrong, they are not going to make fun of him if he wins the Pacific Classic over Lava Man. And they are certainly not going to make fun of ANY horse that has won both a Ky Derby and a BCC! The truth is, even you don't think he is likely to win either the PC or BCC.

I agree with Somer that no bad horse has ever won the Ky Derby. Giacomo is a very nice horse as he showed yesterday, winning at what was almost certainly not his best distance. I was rooting for him to win for the same reason as most. Namely, he has taken more grief than he deserved. But if his connections want him to be considered something beyond a "very nice horse", they will have to give him the chance to win another Grade I, which is apparently what they are going to do.

--Dunbar

PS--your potshot at Danzig was particularly childish.

miraja2 · #8 07-23-2006, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

They are always gunna make fun of this horse.I would just like for his last race to be a Graded Stakes Win. If he runs 4th or 5th in a race,and is retired,then you just give the savages more tool to cut with.

The reason that I don't think it would be wise to retire him is because he still might be able to accomplish some good things. Like I said before, I am not a real big fan of the horse, but look at the classic division this year! If Lava Man has a bad race (or hits the wall again like he did last year) in the PC, there really is not any reason that Giacomo couldn't win the race.
People describe him as a G3 horse, and maybe he is, but how many true "G1" horses are there in the classic division this year? Not a lot by any measure. Personally I think Flower Alley is the class of the division, but that one has run just once in the last 9 months. I don't think it is outside the realm of possibility that some horse who people would normally classify as a "G3 caliber" horse will finish first or second in the BCC this year. Could that be Giacomo? As I said earlier, I wouldn't bet on it, but it certainly is possible. Let's say they keep running the horse and he finishes 2nd in the Pacific Classic and then 3rd in the BCC (which might be possible). Wouldn't it have then been a wise decision to keep him running?

pdrift1 · #9 07-24-2006, 05:55 PM

congrats to giacomo, so happy for him, he at least validated his derby win, and such a beautiful looking horse. i think alot of people had reason to question but this should end that.a grade 2 beautiful win