Rags to Riches/Belmont try?

[Thunder Gulch]

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

[sundaysilenceforever]

I love Rags, and think she will win. But at a price I like High Again, with High Heels and Octave. Kinda concerned about the distance for Sealy Hill.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch

If you don't look at the names and the hype surrounding this one now, the pp's don't show her to be that exceptional compared to the competition. Yes, she's the deserving favorite, but taking 2-1 or less from an outside post in a 14 horse field is really problematic.

Her pps don't tell the whole story. You should do yourself a favor and watch her race two back. It's really something.

To be honest I felt similarly to you until I watched her races.

[KY_Sasquash]

Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

I think Rags will win in a jog if the track is fast. Im tossing Anna though, dont like her, i do like Autobahn Girl and Tough Tiz's Sis underneath and will play a few backup tickets with them on top

[philcski]

Originally Posted by philcski

I have a strong feeling she may regress off the SA efforts when faced with a real horse race. IF she runs her race, it's all over, she will win by 3, but if she takes a step or two back and another takes a step forward, suddenly the event becomes a lot different.

Those eligible to move forward at a price (taking into account the mile and an eighth, pace, etc.): High Heels, Dreaming of Anna, Tough Tiz's Sis, Autobahn Girl, Sealy Hill.

Wow, this group did a lot of running.
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by philcski

Wow, this group did a lot of running.
I tried too hard to beat a layup winner. Figured SOMEONE interesting would do some running, but it wasn't meant to be.

She ran great, and galloped out strong. Had nice seats at the clubhouse turn and she hardly looked winded.

You stated a real horse race was the reason you did not like her, exactly what are the other filly races that where real horse races compared to the santa anita oaks, i just dont see it in this division this year.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

[PPerfectfan]

Originally Posted by philcski

Forget the speed figures. Does she stand out when you consider the fact that (a) she's only got 4 career starts, (b) never left Cali, (c) comes in off an 8 week layoff, and (d) the fillies behind her have not done anything of note to validate the performances?

5/2, 3-1 is fair value. Even money (or less) is not.

That is why I am going to try and beat her in this spot. Who wants to eat chalk?? I think she is the best filly by far, but this is a race to try and beat her in. And some of the fillies that are in this race are nice fillies.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by slotdirt

You know, are her speed figures really that good? This field looks more competitive than I initially thought...

I totally agree, there seems to be several in here that can challenge her. I'm going to try and beat her myself.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by whorstman

I'm going to try and beat her myself.

There is no way you are fast enough

[zippyneedsawin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no way you are fast enough

LOL!! I bet he's carrying more weight too!!

[Cajungator26]

I don't know if anyone (including whorstman) is going to beat Rags, but I will be using Rags, Cotton Blossom, Octave, High Heels and Dreaming of Anna. I think Pletcher has this Oaks in the bag.

[whorstman]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There is no way you are fast enough

Oh, you havn't seen me in the club! I can flat stalk some fillies!

[ArlJim78]

I think it's kinda foolish to try to beat Rags here. Anything can happen but she is quite the beast.