Yikes

[ateamstupid]

As much as I like Curlin, we all must take into account that (a.) that was a very weak field, once Deadly Dealer packed it in, there was nobody to beat and (b.) from what I've read (the Bykster wrote something great about this), the end of the stretch at OP is on a slight decline, so don't go nuts over the sub-:12 final furlong. If you remember, Afleet Alex ran a sub-:12 final furlong in the AR Derby two years ago in a very similar effort. Not to say that if Curlin turns out to be Afleet Alex, it'll be a disappointment, just that the under :12 eighth isn't unheard of.

With that said, it was a visually impressive performance and the sky looks to be the limit with this colt.

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

... don't go nuts over the sub-:12 final furlong. If you remember, Afleet Alex ran a sub-:12 final furlong in the AR Derby two years ago in a very similar effort....

[MarkyD]

people are pounding Curlin right now.
He was 12-1 before the race. he is down to 5-1.
He was 6-1 10 minutes ago.


http://www.kentuckyderby.com/2007/future-wager-odds

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

In a year where no 3YO has been impressive Curlin stands out. I'm not saying I love his chances in the Derby but he simply cannot be ignored at this point.

i agree--certainly was the more impressive of the two big 3 yo winners today. but not too sure what to think of the bluegrass, they absolutely crawled early in that one.
but i don't love his chances derby day either. at this point, i don't really like any of them! but someone has to win it.

question is who?

[pdrift1]

i think curlin could be that good! but i think when street sense hits that churchill dirt instead of the poly, he flys- this race didn't take much outa him. i think hes sitting on a big one. him or any given saturday are going to be wearing roses on the 5th. if its a closer i like circular quay

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i agree--certainly was the more impressive of the two big 3 yo winners today. but not too sure what to think of the bluegrass, they absolutely crawled early in that one.
but i don't love his chances derby day either. at this point, i don't really like any of them! but someone has to win it.

question is who?

I guess I haven't commited yet, but I'm probably going to bet Any Given Saturday in the race----and I feel almost embarassed admitting it. While he has the absolute right style for the race, and has run what I believe to be his career best race over the track, he's really not much horse at all. Hopefully he is forgotten, and doesn't attract either JRV or Gomez, so I can get a better price.

Actually, if you compare his 3yo races with Giacomo's 3yo races, leading into the Derby, I think Giacomo's races were clearly a little better.

[somerfrost]

Man, the #5 horse almost wiped out half the field at the start but replay showed nobody seriously compromised. Yes Curlin was impressive...lots going against him, he'll have to be very special to win the Derby.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Well......at least one 3-year-old doesn't suck.....

Good to see a horse of his talent win like that---in fact, an arguement can be made that his three lifetime races yielded the 3 best individual performances by any horse in the crop this year.

Deadly Dealer had a no excuse trip on an easy pace...he simply can't go long, Curlin got his final 1/8th in an explosive 11 and change.

Projected Beyer calculated yet?

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Projected Beyer calculated yet?

It's very hard to say because there were no other 1 1/8 races. I guess you can look at the 1 1/16 races and say he ran around 104 but it feels like a guess. He beat the clunk up Delightful Kiss by over 10 lengths and that one should have run 85-90 which makes somewhere around 105 seem close.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

It's very hard to say because there were no other 1 1/8 races. I guess you can look at the 1 1/16 races and say he ran around 104 but it feels like a guess. He beat the clunk up Delightful Kiss by over 10 lengths and that one should have run 85-90 which makes somewhere around 105 seem close.

thanks

[POINTGIVEN1985]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Definitely impressive. Very talented colt that I will be playing against in the Derby.

as impressed as i was, and i was very impressed... i wont have him on any ticket in the derby....