Perfect Drift finishes 2nd

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Some things never change.
He looked like his usual consistent self today.
I hope he somehow manages to put together a good enough year to run in his 83rd straight BCC.

Grits,
I am at a loss as to how you viewed this post as somehow knocking Perfect Drift.
I meant "some things never change" in a positive way. He is still hitting the board like always. People haven't really been knocking the horse in this thread....so I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be arguing with a straw-man of your own creation.
Perfect Drift is a very good horse. He may not win very often, but it isn't easy to be competitive at the level he has competed at, for as long as he has.

[Grits]

Originally Posted by miraja2

Grits,
I am at a loss as to how you viewed this post as somehow knocking Perfect Drift.
I meant "some things never change" in a positive way. He is still hitting the board like always. People haven't really been knocking the horse in this thread....so I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. You seem to be arguing with a straw-man of your own creation.
Perfect Drift is a very good horse. He may not win very often, but it isn't easy to be competitive at the level he has competed at, for as long as he has.

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Grits

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

Just so I don't step on any toes, what exactly is the threshold of dollars earned at which a horse becomes untouchable? $2 Million? $5 Million?

Nobody disputes that the horse has had a great career and has been a very productive individual, but I don't see how that eliminates the ability for someone to point out that the horse is not quite what he used to be and has never had a propensity for blowing by horses or for being a win machine. Those seem to be more statements of fact than they are statements of disrespect towards the horse's entire career.

And what the hell does any of it have to do with "honor?"

Talking about a horse's form being less than it used to be has no more to do with "honor" (or lack thereof as you've implied) than it has to do with blueberry pancakes.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Just so I don't step on any toes, what exactly is the threshold of dollars earned at which a horse becomes untouchable? $2 Million? $5 Million?

Nobody disputes that the horse has had a great career and has been a very productive individual, but I don't see how that eliminates the ability for someone to point out that the horse is not quite what he used to be and has never had a propensity for blowing by horses or for being a win machine. Those seem to be more statements of fact than they are statements of disrespect towards the horse's entire career.

And what the hell does any of it have to do with "honor?"

Talking about a horse's form being less than it used to be has no more to do with "honor" (or lack thereof as you've implied) than it has to do with blueberry pancakes.

yes brian, but pointing out that the horse isnt what he used to be ,what is obvious to any racing fan, constantly, is what gets old. did you need someone else or this thread to point that out to you or did you already figure that out that he takes alot of 2nds and when they come out next time when he takes a 2nd will you need someone on here to remind you of it or will this thread be enuff, because i guarentee someone will say he took 2nd again, and if you dont think some do it to get a rise your kidding yourself. usually i ignore it, i could care less. but grits does have somewhat of a legit point, but i also think you can say what you believe on this board and i don't hold bad feelings to no one, everyone has a right to what they think and what they percieve

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by pdrift1

yes brian, but pointing out that the horse isnt what he used to be ,what is obvious to any racing fan, constantly, is what gets old. did you need someone else or this thread to point that out to you or did you already figure that out that he takes alot of 2nds and when they come out next time when he takes a 2nd will you need someone on here to remind you of it or will this thread be enuff, because i guarentee someone will say he took 2nd again, and if you dont think some do it to get a rise your kidding yourself. usually i ignore it, i could care less. but grits does have somewhat of a legit point, but i also think you can say what you believe on this board and i don't hold bad feelings to no one, everyone has a right to what they think and what they percieve

I guess I'm just not bothered by a thread pointing out the obvious. I didn't find any of the posts mean-spirited or denigrating to the horse or his career.

I don't need threads here to remind me of lots of things in racing, but news in racing is news in racing. Did you need a thread on this forum to know that Curlin won the Arkansas Derby or that Dominican won the Blue Grass yesterday? It was quite obvious to any racing fan even without looking at the forum. It's the same thing with Perfect Drift. Things that get discussed here ARE the news. If Drift wins his next race, someone will make a thread about it.

I agree that Grits had a point, in theory -- but nobody said the horse was awful, nobody bad-mouthed the horse in that thread. It was classic overreaction. Well, it was still semi-valid in the universal sense (that there ARE people out there who lose track of the fact that Drift has banked lots of cash...I just don't think anyone posting in the thread had done so), but the problem I have with it is that it was taken to a personal level towards other posters. Calling people dishonorable for talking about Drift's propensity to snag small slices takes it out of the realm of reality and into fantasy. The point was relevant in theory, but the whole "HARK! People are trashing Drift!" thing was a figment of someone's imagination.

Though he DID run second yesterday, like he has so many times before. Dishonorable as it may be to have a discussion about his running lines.

[pdrift1]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I have to say you are pretty confusing. First you were sure he was going to blow by the Biancone horse yesterday. Now you're saying he does run second a lot. Honestly you seem to be taking this way too personal. For the third time, I like Perfect Drift, he's a good horse. I like seeing him running still as well as the other two horses that were named. No one is being rude here IMO. But you and Grits seem to want to make this into more than it is. Why is it so bad to say he runs second a lot?

confused i'm not, first i realize he takes 2nd alot what does that have to do with me thinking he couldnt have beaten that horse with more ground.so me saying he takes seconed alot would discredit me saying hes going to win again - i think not-you want to lump them together when thier is nothing to it go ahead. one has nothing to do with the other. no hard feelings here you believe what you want and i will do the same. no big deal. i never said anyone was rude i said the repeats are just old i know you respect drift but some just love to rip him. like i said no big deal and no hard feelings drift rules

[miraja2]

Originally Posted by Grits

I'm sorry Miraja, your post somehow rings far more negative than positive.

But somehow, he's managed to win often enough to net five million. Strange as it is.

If you think it is negative then apparently YOU are the one that associates running second with something negative.....don't put that on me. I respect a horse that is as consistent as he is.
Also, your statement that he has "won enough to net five million" is wrong in a couple of ways.
1) He hasn't earned $5 million.
2) A lot of the money he has earned has NOT just come from winning. This horse has finished second or third in 14 G1 and G2 races over the years. That pays quite a bit of money.