BC Distaff 2016

[Secretriat34]

Beholder ?
Songbird ?

neither can get to Chrome, the world champ..but what about the BCC for either ?

thoughts ?

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Originally Posted by Secretriat34

Beholder ?
Songbird ?

neither can get to Chrome, the world champ..but what about the BCC for either ?

thoughts ?

both might have to do some running to be stellar wind

[Secretriat34]

the distaff might be the best race of the BC

[Secretriat34]

It seems as if the distaffers might have a better race run in the BCD than the horses in the BCC...without making to much of a wild stab..it seems a foregone conclusion that Chrome will win the BCC and off his DWC score and the BCC score he would be the HOY..

could it be possible to have a dead heat for the HOY in 2016..

one for Chrome, and another for the winner of the better race, the distaff ?

[Thunder Gulch]

If Chrome wins the Classic, he is the clear HOY. If he doesn't then the results of the Breeders Cup may change things. Chrome could still win, but if Frosted won the Classic, he would have a shot.

If neither won, they may look to a Distaffer, but I would look at Tepin if she defends that BC Mile. Winning at Axcot makes her undefeated campaign truly historic. IMO Tepin's work is superior to Songbird's amazing campaign in the 3yo filly division.

[Secretriat34]

those are all good points..

the fillies and mares are deep..and the colts seem "tired"

Chrome dusted frosted in dubai..and every other time

[Thunder Gulch]

That was quite the performance by Stellar Wind. Has Behloder lost a step? Stellar Wind has never been better, but count me as very surprised she went by Beholder and then fought her off.

The Distaff really does look like a tremendous race. I'm guessing Songbird will now be a slight favorite. On paper, she hasn't run as fast as these two, but I don't know if we have seen her best. Can't wait to find out.

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I wonder if you replaced Beholder on the front end with Songbird how that race ends, maybe we will see. I saw them saying Gary did not want to be on the front end, which is strange, guess that makes the BC pretty interesting from a pace standpoint.

[FATPIANO]

Another tough loss for Beholder, her beyer came back 110, same as Stellar, both are exceptional fillies, Beholder better pressing the pace, The BC Distaff will be one helluva race, I believe Beholder gets her revenge and wins in a laugh...............

[Secretriat34]

The $2 million Longines Breeders' Cup Distaff (gr. I) will be the ninth race on the program, with a post time of 4:35 p.m. PT, or 2:30 on friday in new york, 330 in chicago

I think a PLACE effort in the BCC might pay more than the winners share of the BCD or the differences in the amounts- Place BCC vs Win BCD- is immaterial

[Jasper131]

Originally Posted by Secretriat34

The $2 million Longines Breeders' Cup Distaff (gr. I) will be the ninth race on the program, with a post time of 4:35 p.m. PT, or 2:30 on friday in new york, 330 in chicago

I think a PLACE effort in the BCC might pay more than the winners share of the BCD or the differences in the amounts- Place BCC vs Win BCD- is immaterial

You flipped the time zones...that would be 7:35 pm on Friday in NY and 6:35 pm in Chicago.

[taxicab]

The Distaff is starting to look like the strongest race of BC Weekend,I'm a Catterbox made the Spinster look easy on Sunday.
That's another easy Gr. 1 winner exiting the now key race Personal Ensign on Travers day.
For the life of me I don't know what the first two finishers [Curalina/Cavorting]were waiting for to run back.
I'm glad Dallas Stewart/Larry Jones didn't leave their sharpies in the barn and actually did what you're supposed to do with high quality race horses.........run them.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by taxicab

The Distaff is starting to look like the strongest race of BC Weekend,I'm a Catterbox made the Spinster look easy on Sunday.
That's another easy Gr. 1 winner exiting the now key race Personal Ensign on Travers day.
For the life of me I don't know what the first two finishers [Curalina/Cavorting]were waiting for to run back.
I'm glad Dallas Stewart/Larry Jones didn't leave their sharpies in the barn and actually did what you're supposed to do with high quality race horses.........run them.

The Personal Ensign is a key race because two also rans came back to beat overmatched fields as gigantic favorites?

[RHT2004]

Both 3-5 or less and one of them beat 4 other horses.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The Personal Ensign is a key race because two also rans came back to beat overmatched fields as gigantic favorites?

The only thing to take from PE race is that Cavorting can be very good around 2 turns. I think most people knew and still know that the other fillies were very real G1 quality. No earth shattering news there.

What makes the Distaff a great race, is depth of potential winners, IMO Songbird is a bad bad favorite, not because I don't like her or because she hasn't been super, just because she meets a deep field, and will need to run lengths faster then she ever has in order to beat 5 other serious G1 types. If Songbird beats this group with the same easy she has dispatched the 3 year olds, I am joining the Songbird belongs in same conversation with the other all time greats. Nothing in any of her races too date makes be want to bet on her. She wins I lose sport wins