health ruling thursday

[Danzig]

so, does it stand or does it go???

[bigrun]

Originally Posted by Danzig

so, does it stand or does it go???

Saw a great cartoon yesterday and can't find it now...pic of SCOTUS with 5 having elephant heads and 4 with donkey heads...precurser of the vote..

Few others..In the 2nd pic, check the dog gasping for breath..

[Riot]

I'll stick with my original guess, based upon what the lawyers, scholars and even conservative lower court judges said about it's unquestioned constitutionality when the case first went to the Supremes: 5 to 4 upheld as Constitutional.

At worse, best guesses seem to be only the mandate overturned - which wouldn't be a bad thing, because then we can press immediately for Medicare/single payer for every American.

If they overthrew the whole thing, millions of Americans will suddenly be uninsured, in the middle of their cancer treatments, etc.

None of the legal eagles seem to think they will just throw it out as not yet suitable for review, as the mandate hasn't yet kicked in.

Although Scalia wrote a really, really weird dissenting opinion about one of their other rulings today, stepping clearly into politics.

Socialized health care. Hitler enticed the Austrians with it. Just gradually taking away our rights...like Hitler.

Just read stories of Austrians during WWII and how awful health care coverage was under Hitler. How medical research at Austrian universities came to a grinding halt.

FEMA camps are real. History repeats itself. We are going down a similar path.

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The interesting trick is that the individual mandate is a 100% Republican-created idea for self-responsibility and self-pay. "Everyone buys his own insurance, and stops freeloading off the rest of us"

The insurance companies loved it, as it gives them millions of new customers.

Republicans have spent 25 years activing pushing for the individual mandate in health care, supported by the insurance companies. Yes: Republicans have spent the last 25 years pushing to force every American that can afford it to buy health insurance: "Just like auto insurance", the GOP used to argue. "We don't want to pay for their visits to the ER when they don't have insurance", the GOP said.

The only reason Obama dropped single-payer so readily (much to the consternation of the left), and went with the individual mandate, was because he thought he'd then get Republican support for their 100% Republican health-care plan. Wrong. The GOP were out to screw him, so they abandoned their own health care mandate plan they'd supported and pushed for decades.

But it will be interesting to see what the conservative Supremes say about the Heritage Foundations 100% Republican "individual mandate".

[ArlJim78]

What a load of nonsense. Some Republicans (a small minority) have been for the IM. That doesn't make it a "100% Republican idea", and the idea that this is something that Republicans have been pushing for 25 years is preposterous. Yes some did advocate for it but they were shot down by the majority who wanted no part of it.