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05-08-2012, 08:15 AM
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Ground closed by winner in the Derby since '90
I'll Have Another closed 8 lengths according to the result charts.
Here is the amount of ground past winners have closed in there KY Derby wins -- and how they ran next time out. Wire-to-wire to less than 5 lengths closed * War Emblem (wire-to-wire) Won the Preakness next out and paid $7.60 * Go For Gin (head) 2nd by three-quarters of a length at 5/2 in Preakness next out. * Funny Cide (2 lengths) Won the Preakness by 10 lengths and paid $5.80 * Smarty Jones (2.5 lengths) Won the Preakness by 11 lengths and paid $3.40 * Thunder Gulch (3.25 lengths) 3rd by three-quarter of a length at 7/2 odds. Subsequent Belmont and Travers winner. * Charismatic (3.75 lengths) 1st by 1.5 lengths in Preakness. Paid $18.80 to win. * Big Brown (4 lengths) 1st by 5 lengths in Preakness. Paid $2.40 * Barbaro (4 lengths) DNF in Preakness. Broke down. * Silver Charm (4.25 lengths) 1st by a head in Preakness. Paid $8.20 to win. Total next-out record of horses who closed less than 5 lengths in Derby victory. 9 starters - 6 winners - 1 second - 1 third. Of the three beaten next time out -- two were beaten by less than a length and Barbaro broke down. Avg win mutual is $7.70 and win percentage is 66.7% 5 lengths closed to 10 lengths closed * Animal Kingdom (6.25 lengths) 2nd at 2/1 in Preakness. * Lil E Tee (6.25 lengths) 5th at 4/1 in Preakness. * Real Quiet (8 lengths) Won Preakness and paid $7.00 * Super Saver (8 lengths) 8th in Preakness at 9/5 odds Total Next out record: 1-for-4 (25% wins) avg win price of $7.00 More than 10 lengths closed * Strike The Gold (10.25 lengths) 6th at 9/5 odds in Preakness. * Sea Hero (10.75 lengths) 5th by 8 lengths at 4/1 in Preakness * Fusaichi Pegasus (12.5 lengths) 2nd by 4 lengths at 1/5 odds. * Unbridled (13.25 lengths) 2nd by 2.5 lengths in the Preakness. * Monarchos (16 lengths) 6th by 7.5 lengths at 2/1 odds in Preakness * Giacomo (16.25 lengths) 3rd by 9.75 lengths at 6/1 odds in Preakness * Grindstone (16.75 lengths) Never raced again * Street Sense (19.5 lengths) 2nd by a head at 6/5 odds. * Mine That Bird (21 lengths) 2nd by a length at 6/1 odds. None of the nine horse won next out. They compiled a next out record of 8-0-4-1 with four beaten favorites. Grindstone did not race again. Simple logic to this trend is that the Derby typically has more pace than the Preakness -- and is run at a slightly longer distance. If a horse can handle the Derby pace and still win...he's almost entirely free of red-flags in the Preakness. If a horse wins the Derby with a late rally ... he's probably not going to get that kind of setup unless someone decides to enter a Big Drama or Flying First Class. 
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