Something smells bad in N.J.

[richard burch]

http://www.northjersey.com/news/1116...itics_say.html

http://www.harnesslink.com/www/Article.cgi?ID=85358

it's crunch time for all of us here in the garden state. so here are the links to the good guys who are trying to save the sport. i would encourage you to send them an e-mail. it's very easy, just check all the boxes.

i have already sent many throughout the past year but we need some more help. (push for VLT's)

thanks, i know you will help.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/SelectRep.asp

Senator Jennifer Beck
Assemblywoman Caroline Casagrande
Assemblyman Declan J. O'Scanlon

or these nice people...

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/SelectRep.asp

Assemblyman Gary S. Schaer
Assemblyman Frederick Scalera
Senator Paul A. Sarlo

[Indian Charlie]

I thought this was going to be a post about Parsippany.

Or some mob burial ground.

[Clip-Clop]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought this was going to be a post about Parsippany.

Or some mob burial ground.

Pretty much the entire Northern portion of the turnpike.

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I thought this was going to be a post about Parsippany.

Or some mob burial ground.

[richard burch]

for 2 hours and placed 2 bets.

i spent a lot of time at the customer service desk with a very kind grandmother who worked there for about 15 years. i was more interested as to what the workers were feeling about what is most likely inevitable. it seems the clouds have darkened over the employees and their spirits. they are resigned to seeing the end is coming.

it was extremely sad. some of the people i spoke too have been there 20 years + or since it opened.

guys like dave brower and Bob Heyden, ive talked too them many times. i feel bad for them. i feel bad for me.

Also, Heyden was a little more optomistic but very pissed off.

i hope monmouth is better.

[richard burch]

A.C. is getting a 25 milion tax break?

while the meadowlands cannot even have a poker tournament?

also for some good articles on this subject check out the sboanj.

http://sboanj.com/index.asp?Key=1820

[richard burch]

http://horsetrackannouncer.blogspot.com/

(track)

[GoIrish]

Originally Posted by richard burch

A.C. is getting a 25 milion tax break?

while the meadowlands cannot even have a poker tournament?

also for some good articles on this subject check out the sboanj.

http://sboanj.com/index.asp?Key=1820

Yes I saw that. Unfortunately, as it made me immediately sick to my stomach. I was telling my buddy the other day, knowsing the results, I wish NJ never approved casino gambling. (This was a big shock to him as he knows me to be a gambler.) The entire state is beholden to the casinos. The politicos are in their pockets. This state is run by a teachers union and casinos.

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by richard burch

A.C. is getting a 25 milion tax break?

while the meadowlands cannot even have a poker tournament?

also for some good articles on this subject check out the sboanj.

http://sboanj.com/index.asp?Key=1820

You do know that the state has a vested intrest in the whole casino Atlantic City casino industry/region?

[tector]

You mean besides the residents?

[MaTH716]

Originally Posted by tector

You mean besides the residents?

Residents, as in probably most of their employment. Or as in their property values and that of the whole region. Not to mention all the tax revenues from generated income from the area.

My point was that it's obviously a much deeper issue than justthe govenor choosing to support AC over horse racing.

[tector]

AC over horse racing, if that is the choice, would be the smart play. Horse racing, if not not dying, is certainly decaying. It is less and less popular with each succeeding generation.

The real question, I suppose, is whether it really has to be AC v. horse racing. I don't know--or care--enough about NJ to answer that; we have enough problems down here in Florida for me to be concerned about another second tier jurisdiction.

But as others here can tell you I have maintained for years that there needs to be a lot less racing, which entails a lot less of everything--breeders, tracks,trainers, etc. People who have been in the racing biz are no more "entitled" to a racing livelihood than loggers are in an area that can no longer sustain logging.

I know as Americans we are taught that more is always better, but in this case (and many others), it is isn't. Small fields of poorly bred animals (most of whom come to a bad end) is no way to preserve this sport on any level. And to the extent racing can't compete in the market, then that extent deserves to go into oblivion. If racing becomes a boutique sport, I am fine with that. Unlike some others here, I am not a monomaniacal racing degenerate. I am just as happy being a degenerate at poker or blackjack table. Diversify your degeneracy, my friends.

[richard burch]

after going to the meadowlands on saturday night and getting depressed i decided to got to monmouth park closing day. (lets hope it's not the "closing day" forever)

the mood was a little bit better by the shore but there are a lot of gray areas as to whether there will be racing.

the meadowlands will proceed with scheduling for next year sometime in december. monmouth will submit race dates around january.

one constant is that they all dislike christie and his goons. BTW, hanson is on the gov's payroll so don't look for fatso to disapprove of anything this jerk says. there is corruption at the top.

it looks like a legal battle will ensue to enforce the current contract.

anyway here are pics from the final day at M.P.

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[richard burch]

some more....

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some big names up there...


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[richard burch]

As part of the effort to boost New Jersey’s gaming and horse racing industries, Assemblymen John Burzichelli (D-Gloucester) and Ronald Dancer (R-Burlington) are sponsoring legislation that would allow Internet account wagering on horse races from bettors outside New Jersey.

Account wagering is a form of betting in which an account holder deposits money with the state Sports and Exposition Authority, or its designee, and then uses the account balance to pay for wagers.

Under current law, only New Jerseyans are permitted to establish wagering accounts for bets on in-state and out-of-state horse races through the system, either in-person or via the telephone or other electronic means such as the Internet.

The proposed changes would authorize an account wagering licensee to accept wagers on the results of horse races from residents outside of New Jersey.

Under the bill, the account wagering licensee could accept account wagers from persons who are residents of another state, provided that: The person resides in a state where pari-mutuel wagering is permitted; residents of that state are permitted to establish an account with the account wagering licensee; and the acceptance of the wager is in accordance and compliance with the provisions of the Interstate Horse Racing Act of 1978, any other applicable federal law and the laws of that state.
Burzichelli has sponsored bills designed to help New Jersey’s horse racing and casino industries, including proposals to allow exchange wagering, increase purses at Monmouth Park and allow for boutique casinos in Atlantic City.

“This bill represents yet another effort to ensure New Jersey’s horse racing industry is strong and viable,” Burzichelli said Wednesday. “A modern horse racing industry must take into consideration all the ways in which people can participate, and that of course means bringing the Internet and other electronic means into play for those outside our state. Opening New Jersey’s horse racing industry to a wider audience is simply a smart thing to do.”

The bill (A-3498) has been referred to the Assembly Regulatory Oversight and Gaming Committee, which is chaired by Burzichelli.

– TOM HESTER SR., NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM

[MaTH716]

Interesting, I just recieved an e-mail from Monmouth about them selling VIP passes for the 2011 meet.

[GoIrish]

Same here. I'll probably receive one for Christmas. I'm trying to keep a positive attitude.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by richard burch

As part of the effort to boost New Jersey’s gaming and horse racing industries, Assemblymen John Burzichelli (D-Gloucester) and Ronald Dancer (R-Burlington) are sponsoring legislation that would allow Internet account wagering on horse races from bettors outside New Jersey.

Account wagering is a form of betting in which an account holder deposits money with the state Sports and Exposition Authority, or its designee, and then uses the account balance to pay for wagers.

Under current law, only New Jerseyans are permitted to establish wagering accounts for bets on in-state and out-of-state horse races through the system, either in-person or via the telephone or other electronic means such as the Internet.

The proposed changes would authorize an account wagering licensee to accept wagers on the results of horse races from residents outside of New Jersey.

Under the bill, the account wagering licensee could accept account wagers from persons who are residents of another state, provided that: The person resides in a state where pari-mutuel wagering is permitted; residents of that state are permitted to establish an account with the account wagering licensee; and the acceptance of the wager is in accordance and compliance with the provisions of the Interstate Horse Racing Act of 1978, any other applicable federal law and the laws of that state.
Burzichelli has sponsored bills designed to help New Jersey’s horse racing and casino industries, including proposals to allow exchange wagering, increase purses at Monmouth Park and allow for boutique casinos in Atlantic City.

“This bill represents yet another effort to ensure New Jersey’s horse racing industry is strong and viable,” Burzichelli said Wednesday. “A modern horse racing industry must take into consideration all the ways in which people can participate, and that of course means bringing the Internet and other electronic means into play for those outside our state. Opening New Jersey’s horse racing industry to a wider audience is simply a smart thing to do.”

The bill (A-3498) has been referred to the Assembly Regulatory Oversight and Gaming Committee, which is chaired by Burzichelli.

– TOM HESTER SR., NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM

Ron Dancer... I think that is the ducks uncle.. The Duck used to driver My Bill Forward who while as tough and fast as a handicap horse as there in his day was like 8th choice against an awesome field which included Skip By Night, Gheghis Khan, Fan Hanover(I know the mare), Willow Wiper and elite others

[Holland Hacker]

Originally Posted by richard burch

As part of the effort to boost New Jersey’s gaming and horse racing industries, Assemblymen John Burzichelli (D-Gloucester) and Ronald Dancer (R-Burlington) are sponsoring legislation that would allow Internet account wagering on horse races from bettors outside New Jersey.

Account wagering is a form of betting in which an account holder deposits money with the state Sports and Exposition Authority, or its designee, and then uses the account balance to pay for wagers.

Under current law, only New Jerseyans are permitted to establish wagering accounts for bets on in-state and out-of-state horse races through the system, either in-person or via the telephone or other electronic means such as the Internet.

The proposed changes would authorize an account wagering licensee to accept wagers on the results of horse races from residents outside of New Jersey.

Under the bill, the account wagering licensee could accept account wagers from persons who are residents of another state, provided that: The person resides in a state where pari-mutuel wagering is permitted; residents of that state are permitted to establish an account with the account wagering licensee; and the acceptance of the wager is in accordance and compliance with the provisions of the Interstate Horse Racing Act of 1978, any other applicable federal law and the laws of that state.
Burzichelli has sponsored bills designed to help New Jersey’s horse racing and casino industries, including proposals to allow exchange wagering, increase purses at Monmouth Park and allow for boutique casinos in Atlantic City.

“This bill represents yet another effort to ensure New Jersey’s horse racing industry is strong and viable,” Burzichelli said Wednesday. “A modern horse racing industry must take into consideration all the ways in which people can participate, and that of course means bringing the Internet and other electronic means into play for those outside our state. Opening New Jersey’s horse racing industry to a wider audience is simply a smart thing to do.”

The bill (A-3498) has been referred to the Assembly Regulatory Oversight and Gaming Committee, which is chaired by Burzichelli.

– TOM HESTER SR., NEWJERSEYNEWSROOM.COM

This legislation, make the legislators are idiotic. Why on earth would a non-resident want to open a NJ ADW account on a platform that crashes on major days, provides no incentives to the players is beyond me. I live in NJ and only have an account because it is my only legal option. It is really sad what has happend to racing in NJ. I know there has been a downward trend in racing nationally but I would like to see how much the states's ownership of the tracks in NJ has exacerbated the decline. Monmouth was a much better track before the NJSEA took it over.

Trenton doesn't have a clue about horse racing which was evidenced by what Codey said about the track having a "bad day" based on the racing results. I think it was in the bill for combining betting pools, not sure I even understood what the point of the bill was.

It will be interesting to see how long racing actually survives in NJ, I give it an over under of 5 years.

OK enough venting for now.